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post #1 of 10 (permalink) Old 06-14-2012, 10:48 PM Thread Starter
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Another Betta or tankmates?

I'm still stumped as far as tankmates go, so I'd love to hear what you guys have in your tanks. (I have a 10g with Vilkas and two ghost shrimp)

I currently volunteer at my library and it's next to a petco, and I found two very nice fish Im considering, and I may take one home tomorrow. I have a divider ready for my tank.

The question is, Vilkas is a tailbiter (pretty bad, and won't stop unless there's someone in the room with him) so would the divided tank make it better or worse? He's a very docile fish and has never shown aggression (even at his reflection most times). Also, could tankmates have the same effect: better or worse?

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post #2 of 10 (permalink) Old 06-14-2012, 11:39 PM
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i just decided to make a little sheet that had, commonly sold, easy to care for and cheap compatible fish for bettas
if anyone has any corrections on this, please comment and ill edit it

Some Betta fish will NOT tolerate tank mates and will go on a killing frenzy when introduced to other fish, so if you do decide to keep your Betta with other fish. Make sure that you have a backup plan incase It doesn't work. And make sure that you add the Betta last, because this will prevent some aggresion. If you add it first then the Betta will claim its territory and then when you introduce the new fish the Betta will think that the new fish are in his territory and kill the fish

generally compatible fish for bettas

----Name of fish-------minimum tank size------minimum group number
Ember tetras--------10 gallons----------six
Habrosus cories--------10 gallons----------six
hastatus cories------10 gallons-------------six
Von-rio tetras-------------15 gallons---------ideally 7 or more
Pristilla tetras------------10 gallons-----------six
Head and light tetras----10-------------------six
Cherry barbs----------15 gallons----------------six
Neon tetras-------------10 gallons------------ Six
Neons tetras can be a bit nippy when kept in small numbers so you would need atleast 6 to house them properly with a Betta
galaxy rasboras------------10 gallons-----------Six
panda and pygmy cories------10 gallons-----------Six
most other cories-----------15-20 gallons -----Six
harlequin rasbora -----------10 gallons---------Six
non fancy female guppies------10 gallons ------- Three
endlers livebearers------------10gallons---------Three
zebra danios-----------------3.5 foot tank-------Six
Bristle nose plecos------------2.5 foot tank-------One
Bushy nose plecos-------------2.5 foot tank------One
non colorful platies------------10 gallons---------Three
glo fish----------------------3.5 foot tank--------Six
rummy nose tetras------------15 gallons-----------Six
glo light tetras----------------10 gallons----------Six
cardinal tetras----------------15 gallons----------Six
X ray tetras-------------------10 gallons----------Six
"feeder guppies"---------------10 gallons-----------Three
Khuli loaches------------------2 foot tank--------Six
Scissor tail rasboras-------------10 gallons----------Six
Otos---------------------------10 gallons---------3 - 4
Bloodfin tetras-------------------15 gallons-------- Six
Rasbora Brigittae-----------------5 gallons----------Six
Black neon tetras------------------15 gallons-------six
Yoyo loaches

Shrimp that are compatible with bettas

Ghost shrimp---------------------2.5 gallons --------one
Amano shrimp-------------------2.5 gallons----------one
Cherry shrimp-------------------2.5 gallons---------one
and a little note about shrimp, they are a hit and miss, some bettas are fine with shrimp and some aren't but all of my bettas have been fine with shrimp that are over 1 inch. I would suggest that a well planted tank with lots of cover should be used when having small ghost shrimp or cherry shrimp

Snails that are compatible with bettas

Apple snails------------------10 gallons-----------one
Ramshorn snails------------5 gallons---------one
Malaysian trumpet snails---2.5 gallons--------one
Pond snails--------------------2.5 gallons---------one
Nerite snails------------------5 gallons----------one
Snails are a hit and miss too with bettas some will tolerate them but some will chop their feelers off


sometimes compatible fish with bettas

---Name of fish------------Minimum tank size------minimum group number

male, and female Fancy guppies----------10 gallons-----------three
Sparkling gouramis------------------------10 gallons----------one
bright and colorful platies----------------10 gallons-----------three
Black widow tetras----------------------20 gallons------------Eight to not be as nippy
sword tails----------------------------2 ft. Tank------------Three
Mollies-------------------------------25 gallons ----------3
Lyre tail guppies-----------------------10 gallons-------------Three

Fish that are rarely compatible with bettas

Including information regarding minimum group and tank size for this part of the list would most likely encourage people to further on and try the compatibilities which I wouldn't recommend.

Serpae tetras
other bettas
SA cichlids
NW cichlids
Dwarf gouramis
Tiger barbs
Honey gouramis
Angel fish
Honey gouramis
Boesemani rainbows
Red tailed sharks
Any type of crayfish with claws over half an inch


Hope this helped!

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Thank you so much!

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It's good to know people still use that guide. Thank you zergymonster

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I would be cautious when introducing any sort of fish with beta's because like all fish they each have such dynamic personalities.

I had a 40 gallon tank that held 3 catfish, a few snails, a beta (male) fish, 2 mollies, and a fancy goldfish that all lived perfectly with each other for over a year. It's almost like a careful science experiment -just be ultra careful your beta doesn't react badly to its little neighbors.

Give everything a lot of hiding spots and have a 'back-up' tank just in case. :]
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I would be cautious when introducing any sort of fish with beta's because like all fish they each have such dynamic personalities.

I had a 40 gallon tank that held 3 catfish, a few snails, a beta (male) fish, 2 mollies, and a fancy goldfish that all lived perfectly with each other for over a year. It's almost like a careful science experiment -just be ultra careful your beta doesn't react badly to its little neighbors.

Give everything a lot of hiding spots and have a 'back-up' tank just in case. :]
Gold fish are temperate, Bettas are tropical, so it's not recommended to keep them together.

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Had 2 ghost shrimp in with my crowntail, live plants, artificial plants, and hiding areas galore. Started to notice my bettas fin extensions disappearing one by one, then one day I noticed my betta was hanging out more in the top corner behind the filter. As I was trying to coax him out, the ghost shrimp actually ganged up on my poor betta and plucked another fin piece of like he was their personal buffet. I immediately took them out and put them in my backup tank until I could return them to the store. He now has 2 otocinclus catfish as tankmates, and they'll all "school" together. It's really funny to watch, and on occasion he gets a little species confused and will actually start to share some of the algae wafer I give as supplements. Did a lot of research using multiple sites before both purchases, but every fish is an individual, so I'm just really glad I had a backup plan!
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Maybe you didn't feed your ghost shrimp enough or the correct food. They won't eat very much algae and are mainly scavengers. They are pretty much vultures for aquariums. I have never had any of my bettas injured by ghost shrimp, though sometimes I see the ghost shrimp try to steal the betta pellets and end up hitting the bettas, but they have never caused an injury.

Goldfish are coldwater by the way...


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They were fed plenty of food, high quality shrimp pellets plus algae. Like I said, researched a lot prior to even thinking about purchasing them, I'm a vet tech, so I take animal care extremely seriously. Some posts I have read said the same thing happened to them, but most said that they had no problems, so i gave it a try. Like all creatures, fish are individuals too, and the tank sits directly next to me in the living room and is constantly monitored. The only purpose for me posting about what my experience has been was to help let people make an informed decision so they know what to look for and what could potentially happen so they aren't blind-sided
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in regards to the divider, lilyrazen, it just depends on the boy.

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