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post #1 of 32 (permalink) Old 01-02-2013, 08:47 PM Thread Starter
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Bioload of Snails?

My soon to be betta sorority 29 gal is treated, stocked with corys and 2 snails. I opted for black mystery snails b/c they blend in with the black sand to hide from bully bettas. (Albino corys look great against black sand!)
I noticed my male's 2.5 gal gets dirty quickly; I then realized his blue mystery snail is the bioload culprit. This is a BIG snail. I have a smaller blue mystery in the 5 gal with my 2 girls, and the water is much more stable!
The big blue snail is going in the 29 gallon.
Long way to one question:
What is the bioload of a good-sized snail in compared to a betta or cory? We are all familiar with the "one inch of fish per gallon" rule; what's the snail equivalent?

4 bettas: Butch, 3-year-old violet male PK EE & 3 girls in a 30 gal sorority. I do not name the girls anymore! 1/2 of them die within a month.
30 gal: 9 Oto cats, 4 Ocellifer cats. Inverts: Cherry shrimp & 2 assasin snails.
10 gal.: Butch, his 5 oto cats, 3 assasin snails, and a few snails the assassins haven't caught.
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Mystery snails have a big bio load & in my research they are supposed to have 2g per snail. I have 1 in each of my 5 tanks, 5.5g, 3 10g & a 46g.
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My soon to be betta sorority 29 gal is treated, stocked with corys and 2 snails. I opted for black mystery snails b/c they blend in with the black sand to hide from bully bettas. (Albino corys look great against black sand!)
I noticed my male's 2.5 gal gets dirty quickly; I then realized his blue mystery snail is the bioload culprit. This is a BIG snail. I have a smaller blue mystery in the 5 gal with my 2 girls, and the water is much more stable!
The big blue snail is going in the 29 gallon.
Long way to one question:
What is the bioload of a good-sized snail in compared to a betta or cory? We are all familiar with the "one inch of fish per gallon" rule; what's the snail equivalent?
UGH snails..I never knew they were so messy. I added one nerite to each 10 gal betta tank, the ammonia rose within a couple of days...no snails the tanks were fine for atleast a week, one med size snail and boom, poop everywhere and ammonia spikes :/

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The color of the snail isn't going to save it from the wrath of the bettas.

My bettas can easliy distinguish a snail from a piece of rock/turd/etc... Any type of slight movement will get their attention when they're bored/hungry.

1 snail depending on the size can easily create 5x the waste of 1 betta depending on how much food they find to munch on.

When you talk about the size of something, you should name something so we can get an idea like a cherry, acorn or clementine.
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3 acorn sized snails now in one 29 gallon. I dropped in an algae wafer for the corys a few minutes ago; the cats nibbled on it until one snail came over & is eating the whole thing!

4 bettas: Butch, 3-year-old violet male PK EE & 3 girls in a 30 gal sorority. I do not name the girls anymore! 1/2 of them die within a month.
30 gal: 9 Oto cats, 4 Ocellifer cats. Inverts: Cherry shrimp & 2 assasin snails.
10 gal.: Butch, his 5 oto cats, 3 assasin snails, and a few snails the assassins haven't caught.
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BTW, my male was initially curious about the snail in his tank; no nipping but he'd bump the snail off the glass if the snail was obstructing his view, BUT, in the past 2 days, the snail actually went out of it's way to knock poor Butch in the head! He's swing his/her shell around if Butch was to close, and-wham!
The girls completely ignore their snail.

4 bettas: Butch, 3-year-old violet male PK EE & 3 girls in a 30 gal sorority. I do not name the girls anymore! 1/2 of them die within a month.
30 gal: 9 Oto cats, 4 Ocellifer cats. Inverts: Cherry shrimp & 2 assasin snails.
10 gal.: Butch, his 5 oto cats, 3 assasin snails, and a few snails the assassins haven't caught.
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lol yeah the snails and tetras are always agueing over the algea waffers in my tetra tanks, then you see the tetras swim away with big bellies...its rediculous...yes acorn sized snails will produce a lot of ammonia...in a 29 however it will take longer to build. I have 6 in a 20g long with 3 tetras and a crazy load of baby pond snails, the size of the tank is a big help plus the hornwort I have in there...takes the tank an extra week longer than my 10 gals to build ammonia...all depends on tank size and fish stocking et...def check ammonia levels often.

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Everyone should go out and buy stock in algae wafer manufacturing co.s!

4 bettas: Butch, 3-year-old violet male PK EE & 3 girls in a 30 gal sorority. I do not name the girls anymore! 1/2 of them die within a month.
30 gal: 9 Oto cats, 4 Ocellifer cats. Inverts: Cherry shrimp & 2 assasin snails.
10 gal.: Butch, his 5 oto cats, 3 assasin snails, and a few snails the assassins haven't caught.
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When I used to feed (nickle/quarter sized) algae wafers I would break it up into sort of bite sized portions for the fish so they can grab a piece, take off to a secluded spot in the tank & dine.

With the cories, I would give them an additional pea sized portion of food for each fish every night to supplement whatever food they scrounged up during the day.

If you want more algae, leave your lights on more often. The stuff grows for free, but cories don't have the tools to turn it into a food like ottos & plecos do.
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No, I don't want more algae, it just seems like I have attack snails!
If they don't get enough to eat, I'm afraid they'll climb out at night and eat me!!!

I thought catfish ate algae??

4 bettas: Butch, 3-year-old violet male PK EE & 3 girls in a 30 gal sorority. I do not name the girls anymore! 1/2 of them die within a month.
30 gal: 9 Oto cats, 4 Ocellifer cats. Inverts: Cherry shrimp & 2 assasin snails.
10 gal.: Butch, his 5 oto cats, 3 assasin snails, and a few snails the assassins haven't caught.
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