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post #21 of 34 (permalink) Old 07-22-2013, 09:46 AM
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15w for a 5 gallon isnt too bad. I have a 23w on my 1 gallon :P

there's likely a dis balance in water chemistry that's causing the algae... I would add more floating plants if possible....


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post #22 of 34 (permalink) Old 07-22-2013, 09:51 AM Thread Starter
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It's gotta be something that fits a standard lightbulb socket though, unless I want to go searching for a whole new fixture again :/ I really wish I'd just gotten like, a normal shaped tank instead of this corner-oriented illegitimate offspring of a trapezoid and a bowfront monstrosity.
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Oh, well I guess it varies and depends on the tank, huh? You could go with some duckweed or amazon frogbit.

Also, do you mean you're looking for the screw in bulbs? I only have those and there are actually screw to pin adapters for $4 on amazon. But, there's different types so I wouldn't suggest that. lol

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Marimo moss ball sounds like a good idea. I had a small case of green algae that took over the surface of the water in my 5.5 gallon and so I added in an aeration stone to move the surface around a bit and disturb it. It didn't grow there ever again. I also had a Fluval compact fluorescent light over it which I think is 13w or something.

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OKay Update.
The new snail I got from petsmart was really energetic and active, far more active than the two blue mysteries that I got from my LFS, and I was hoping that it'd survive, but now it's hiding in its shell, hasn't moved for a few days and is producing stress slime. I'm hoping it's not quite dead yet, but I don't know why it's stressed.
Water params are still fine, I've added a couple of ghost shrimp in the hopes that my betta would chase those instead of trying to nip bits off the snail, and I put a root tab in to help the plants but those are the only two things that have changed. Tank temp is still stable at 75F, water is hard but the same water that has been in the tank all along. I'm baffled, the petsmart fish lady is baffled (to be fair, that's not hard) and the guys at the LFS are all baffled as well. I think I've eliminated a poor supply, and I think I've eliminated shock from the transfer (the last two were drip acclimated for extra paranoia) I don't know what to try next short of completely breaking down the tank and replanting it, which I really really don't have time or money for >.<
I just feel really bad for this last snail. It seemed so active and healthy.
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Do you add any fertilizers to the tank? Copper can be very toxic to snails. I'm really at a loss for what could be happening to your poor snails :(

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Just a root tab (seachem flourish) that I added recently, after the first two. Everything I read said that it should be fine with the snails. Even that though I only added after the first two died.
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[Maybe] Update?: The snail's still alive, but its shell looks very thin around the rim with a wide band of transparent shell. I'd say it's new growth if it didn't look like waaay too wide a band. Can a snail lose mass in its shell?
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yes, if your water is too soft or acidic. it generally shows up as crater like spots in the shell... it's called pitting...
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I have Flourish root tabs in both tanks and all my snails are doing fine which include assassins snails, pond snails (used to have until the assassins ate them all), ramshorns (used to have until the assassins ate them all, trumpet and nerites. I've heard copper can be very toxic to snails but there isn't much in the root tabs (there might not be any, I can't remember). Any fish medications are toxic too.

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