Great thread and message!
Whether or not Walmart will give you a sick/cruelly treated fish for free rests on the shoulders of the manager. Always ask to speak to one and then plead your case to him or her. Regular employee's are not allowed to make that decision, so asking them is pointless. I've had the best luck getting free fish from Walmart when I speak to the manger. Also, they are the one's who implement change and better care for the fish, so politely point out the areas of improvement.
Yes, Walmart does get reimbursed for the dead fish... but they are still taking a loss when their 'stock' all dies or no one buys them. We do not know how much money they make off the dead fish. I can assure you it is even close to full price. That would be foolish on the part of the supplier. The message you send when you pay full price for a sick/cruelly treated fish is the same.
Obviously not buying the fish does make a difference, because many Walmart stores have stopped selling fish completely.
Hit these companies that support cruelty where it hurts the most; their bank accounts and reputation.
Fabulous!! Exactly +1000
From my experience working a summer in the pet section of walmart a few years ago is that when fish die at walmart they are marked down on a sheet, we had to go through the tanks 2x a day scoop out the dead fish and then mark down on the sheet how many of each kind of fish were dead. At the end of that week the sheet was mailed to the supplier who in turn re-imbursed walmart for all of the dead fish. I believe they get back only what they pay for the fish which isn't much, $0.20, $0.30, $0.40 a fish.
So, yes, I am guilty of sympathy purchases; there are obviously better options to try first, but I don't think a sympathy purchase is necessarily a bad thing.
Exactly! Try and get the fish for free first, or discounted, make some sort of impact, and and if you want the fish still and you can't get it for free then buy it, it's not wrong to buy them, but at least try the other route first!! I'm not trying to say that sympathy purchases are a bad thing, they are not! But technically IMHO if you're putting money in the pockets of the companies who mistreated the fish in the first place it can't be considered a true rescue.
Originally Posted by Friendlyfishies
Is it a law that a betta cannot be considered a rescue if you purchase it? I simply ask because I disagree with the theory, I understand your point...but I also think it depends on the actual situation at hand. I would condsider my new VT a rescue even though I did pay for the fish.
I think it all depends on the situation... It's a thin line I guess, I don't think putting money in the pockets of these companies is doing these little fish any favors because then they are never going to learn, they'll say "Well that fish was in horrible condition but someone paid money for it anyway, so I guess it doesn't matter how we treat our fish because there is always someone who will buy them"
But yes if you buy a sick fish with the intention of nursing it back to health, then yes you are rescuing that fish from an otherwise certain death. Do you understand what I'm saying? It's a bit of a grey area!