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New here, with a few questions

Hi all,

I'm new to the forum, and have two bettas, Pontos and Nereus. Pontos is in a large fish bowl that is probably about two gallons, and Nereus is in a plastic tank (I think it's called a critter keeper?) that's probably about a gallon.

I've been reading on here that heating the water is a really good idea. I think I might look into it, if i can find two small enough and inexpensive enough (I have a tight budget).

I've also seen on here that it's better not to change all the water at once. If you don't, then how do you clean the stuff at the bottom of the tank? Do you siphon it?

If you use tap water, do you need to use those conditioning drops they sell?

I've had bettas a few times before when I was younger, but didn't pay as much attention to them as I now am. So I want to make sure I'm doing the right things. I am enjoying having two, and observing their different personalities. Pontos has quite a personality, I wish I could reach in and pet him lol. Nereus is pretty timid. I've seen him hide under his rocks, and he runs away if there's any movement near the tank (including my trying to feed him. They have both blown bubble nests. Nereus surprised me with a big one once. I should have taken a picture.

So, there's my intro, with questions. Thanks for reading!
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Hi all,

I'm new to the forum, and have two bettas, Pontos and Nereus. Pontos is in a large fish bowl that is probably about two gallons, and Nereus is in a plastic tank (I think it's called a critter keeper?) that's probably about a gallon.

I've been reading on here that heating the water is a really good idea. I think I might look into it, if i can find two small enough and inexpensive enough (I have a tight budget).

I've also seen on here that it's better not to change all the water at once. If you don't, then how do you clean the stuff at the bottom of the tank? Do you siphon it?

If you use tap water, do you need to use those conditioning drops they sell?

I've had bettas a few times before when I was younger, but didn't pay as much attention to them as I now am. So I want to make sure I'm doing the right things. I am enjoying having two, and observing their different personalities. Pontos has quite a personality, I wish I could reach in and pet him lol. Nereus is pretty timid. I've seen him hide under his rocks, and he runs away if there's any movement near the tank (including my trying to feed him. They have both blown bubble nests. Nereus surprised me with a big one once. I should have taken a picture.

So, there's my intro, with questions. Thanks for reading!
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Okay. Changing all at once can be stressful sometimes. BUT, in a one gallon like you have, you should probably change your water fully every other day or two, with a 50% change in between. I had a 1.5 gallon and did a full change on Sundays, with frequent medium changes in between. You could get a siphon, but with that small of a tank, youd probably have to self start it.

You can get small mini heaters for that one gallon (zoo med(?) make them, theyre like $20 and are small and round), the two gallon shouldnt go probably above 10w, and they can be found in lots of places in many sizes. (Id recommend staying away from all things Tetra brand..) Marineland heaters are great.

Sadly, heaters are generally just plain expensive, so as far as that budget goes... :c Id recommend, if you have one nearby, getting a PetSmart card, which will save you loads! :D

YES, you do need the conditioning drops. Always! :D

Dont worry, most of us have stories to tell about not knowing what we know now about bettas. All that matters is *now you want to do it right C:

This site is great for any questions you may have, if you ever have questions, everyone is here for you :3
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Well except me *lol* j/k

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Everything PewPewPew just said sound's about right.

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Welcome :D

Okay. Changing all at once can be stressful sometimes. BUT, in a one gallon like you have, you should probably change your water fully every other day or two, with a 50% change in between. I had a 1.5 gallon and did a full change on Sundays, with frequent medium changes in between. You could get a siphon, but with that small of a tank, youd probably have to self start it.

You can get small mini heaters for that one gallon (zoo med(?) make them, theyre like $20 and are small and round), the two gallon shouldnt go probably above 10w, and they can be found in lots of places in many sizes. (Id recommend staying away from all things Tetra brand..) Marineland heaters are great.

Sadly, heaters are generally just plain expensive, so as far as that budget goes... :c Id recommend, if you have one nearby, getting a PetSmart card, which will save you loads! :D

YES, you do need the conditioning drops. Always! :D

Dont worry, most of us have stories to tell about not knowing what we know now about bettas. All that matters is *now you want to do it right C:

This site is great for any questions you may have, if you ever have questions, everyone is here for you :3
Wow, does the water really need to be changed every other day? I've been changing it once a week, that's what the person at petsmart said to do (as well as petsmart's pamphlet on bettas). So, that's what I've been doing. When I change it, i'll take him out and put him in a little fish bowl or cup that's been sitting out with water, clean and refill the bowl/tank, and put him back in when the water is the same temperature as what he's in. I have water sitting out ahead of time, usually a day before, so it will be room temperature when I need it.
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Welcome to the forum and to the wonderful world of Betta keeping.....

If the tanks are not filtered-both the 1gal and 2gal need twice weekly water changes...1-50% and 1-100% to maintain water quality...provided that you are not overfeeding and remove uneaten food after feeding....

Heat is really important for this species of fish-a stable water temp in the 76-80F range and you will see better behavior and appetite...they can tolerate too low water temps short term....but this can also have an effect on their long term health and lifespan......
You need both a heater and thermometer

Make sure the water temp is within a few degrees between new and old water with water changes to prevent temp shock that in turn can cause health problems and even death...

Always use a good dechlorinator with any water added to the fish that covers-chlorine, chloramines and heavy metal.....all of these are deadly to fish.....

Nutrition is also important to the general health of the Bettas-a good quality Betta pellet is best as the staple diet fed in small amount 2-3 times a day...remember their stomach is about the size of their eye...overfeeding can cause bloat and other health problems...also feeding large amount of freeze dried foods like bloodworms...great for a treat a couple of times a week but not more than that.....

Lots of different ways to successfully keep this species..its finding what works best for you, your source water and the Bettas....

And remember...often fish shops are not the best place to get information...sometimes they can give poor and/or misleading information-they often are in it for a sale/money..... when fish forms are in it for the best interest of the fish......

Look forward to seeing some pics....
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Welcome to the forum and to the wonderful world of Betta keeping.....

If the tanks are not filtered-both the 1gal and 2gal need twice weekly water changes...1-50% and 1-100% to maintain water quality...provided that you are not overfeeding and remove uneaten food after feeding....

Heat is really important for this species of fish-a stable water temp in the 76-80F range and you will see better behavior and appetite...they can tolerate too low water temps short term....but this can also have an effect on their long term health and lifespan......
You need both a heater and thermometer

Make sure the water temp is within a few degrees between new and old water with water changes to prevent temp shock that in turn can cause health problems and even death...

Always use a good dechlorinator with any water added to the fish that covers-chlorine, chloramines and heavy metal.....all of these are deadly to fish.....

Nutrition is also important to the general health of the Bettas-a good quality Betta pellet is best as the staple diet fed in small amount 2-3 times a day...remember their stomach is about the size of their eye...overfeeding can cause bloat and other health problems...also feeding large amount of freeze dried foods like bloodworms...great for a treat a couple of times a week but not more than that.....

Lots of different ways to successfully keep this species..its finding what works best for you, your source water and the Bettas....

And remember...often fish shops are not the best place to get information...sometimes they can give poor and/or misleading information-they often are in it for a sale/money..... when fish forms are in it for the best interest of the fish......

Look forward to seeing some pics....
So doing a 50% change means dumping out half the water and then replacing it with new water, and a 100% change is dumping it all, and completely refilling the tank with new water? Maybe I should make a habit of a certain day a week so I remember better.

I'm feeding them Top Fin Betta Bits, the little round pellets. I give them 4 each, once a day, and they typically eat them all. Sometimes they'll chew it, spit it, then take it in again, but they do eat it. Should I give them only two at a time, twice a day instead?


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I do it 3-4 times a day, all about 3-4hrs apart (Im in college and can :P)

Id say two is great at a time, if that's what you can muster.
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Welcome to the forum!

It really depends on you when want to give them food. I personally feed my two boys twice a day at 2 pellets each. I also clean their 1.5gal (big tank isn't ready yet) bins every night so they get a couple bloodworms in their cup while they wait. I only change them every day because I'm paranoid about my water due to my previous Betta. Mine Bettas haven't gotten stressed yet and have a pretty good bubble nest going when I wake up in the mornings.

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Welcome!

4-6 pellets is generally what people feed their fish.

I give them 3 in the morning and 2 at night, usually.

When you do the 100% water change, you'll want to completely rinse the gravel and other decorations too.


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they acutally sell heaters for smaller tanks now. it only heats a few degrees above room temp, but it's pretty good, i've heard. it's called the Betta Bowl Heater, and it's by the people who do the reptile supplies, Zoo Med, i think.
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