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post #21 of 106 (permalink) Old 07-10-2011, 12:57 AM
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Well some people "rescue" bettas from walmart because they see some stupid horribly raised kid shaking their container when the poor thing is already dying from ammonia burns and other diseases from the nasty water- so they take it home, give it a nice clean spacious home with real food, and far away from pesty kids yelling " mommy I want this!!! ". I work at walmart, and I know what really goes on at other walmarts- nasty tap water, being feed ONCE a week- flakes, having water changed ONCE a month in a tiny container. Its animal abuse the same all around whether its a walmart betta or a a dog that got the crap beat out of it. I volunteered at ASPCA and here in TX we had a lot of animal rescues from Katrina and abusive owners. Its really the same if you think about it- a defenseless animal trying to survive but cant do much. So imagine being a walmart fish-seriously. Just imagine maybe 10 mins or so. That walmart betta is no different than that katrina dog- both needed help and were dying, needing love. So yes, it is technically resucing.

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BTW also you said above that its not rescuing if you have to pay for the animal. Our dog Jasper was a Katrina rescue dog who was also severly abused and we paid $100 to adoşt him. He was malnurished, had bad teeth, and was horrible afraid of people because he was almost literally beaten to death until animal rescue came and got him. We gave him a wonderful home with a big back yard, science diet, all the chew toys he can handle, and a loving family. So according to you, we didnt rescue him because we paid for him?

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Larsa - Would you agree there's a difference between rescuing a dog from a shelter, and buying a puppy that was bred in a puppy mill to 'save' it? Both are animals that need help-- but I bet you would never support the puppy mill by buying the dog.

Buying a betta in a store is like buying a dog in a store. It's sending the message that breeding them for profit and putting them in those conditions is good and okay. You seem really defensive about this. No one said you didn't rescue your dog. but you certainly didn't buy your dog form a puppy mill to save it, did you?
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I-I don't know what to say to this. I retyped it four times and all I can say is:

It's a life. We 'rescue' them because is it right to let them die either? I don't think so...They don't deserve it just because some idiot multi-million dollar corporation doesn't bother to grow a brain. It's not their fault their breeder had 'em shipped off to these stores.

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It doesnt matter to me if I had to pay to save it or get it for free. If life is being abused and someone is trying their hardest to help it, I personally consider it rescued whether you buy it from an over-crowded mill or adopt a wounded creature the streets. Life who was purposly made for financial gain in a mill is still abuse. Its very sick minded and its not the animals fault its in that situation because of some greedy human. Some mill animals are treated worse than strays. What matters is you are trying to give an animal a better life where it can be safe and loved, far from harm.

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It doesnt matter to me if I had to pay to save it or get it for free. If life is being abused and someone is trying their hardest to help it, I personally consider it rescued whether you buy it from an over-crowded mill or adopt a wounded creature the streets. Life who was purposly made for financial gain in a mill is still abuse. Its very sick minded and its not the animals fault its in that situation because of some greedy human. Some mill animals are treated worse than strays. What matters is you are trying to give an animal a better life where it can be safe and loved, far from harm.
THANK YOU! +9001! My view exactly. Either way your giving an animal comfort, love and a home to enjoy.

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lol thanks :P I dont tolerate animal abuse, especialy bettas- my fav animals. My walmart doesnt even sell bettas because they know what those poor water babies go through... :' (

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lol thanks :P I dont tolerate animal abuse, especialy bettas- my fav animals. My walmart doesnt even sell bettas because they know what those poor water babies go through... :' (
Welcome. Me either which is why I'm so glad Akira was healthy when I brought him home and has just continued to be a joy. I only feel human in the morning after I've seen my boys.

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Man you really set off a bomb with this thread....
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It's a touchy subject. lol. On the one hand, you have a fish who needs help. On the other hand, you have the choice of supporting the trade that causes them to be in that condition or not.

idk, I make a distinction between saving and animal and the word 'rescue'. To me, when you buy a betta from a store, or do something like buy a dog from a backyard breeder, you can 'save' it, but you're not part of rescuing it. idk for me that word, when talking about animals, kind of refers to specifically when you;

Pay no money to a person who puts the animal into that condition. This is not the same as paying an adoption fee in a shelter or something, which just helps cover the cost of the animal's stay. You do not want to be supporting the people in any way shape or form who do this.

So yeah I know some people in this thread aren't gonna like me for it. But there are pitty purchases, which saves the life of an animal. But there are also rescues that do it and try to move animals without giving any support to the cause of them being where they are. You don't stop puppymills by buying up all the dogs from the breeders-- you stop them by refusing to buy those dogs.

tl;dr - Saving an animal's life isn't the same as a 'rescue' imo. Rescue is a word that has a more specialized meaning when it comes to animals. And also, anyone who maybe feels bad or whatever about buying from walmarts or chain stores, remember;

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