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Rosso1011, the agreement is mutual. Kids these days disgust me in their dependency on social networking like Facebook and Twitter...what happened to a good ol' drink in a bar or lounge with local friends, or chatting to your buddies and family on the telephone?

Apologies if I come off a bit rude, Snowy, but I feel quite strongly on this particular subject :/[/QUOTE]
I am not reliant on social networking or working with people so do I disgust you?
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Choclate, that comment wasn't aimed at you or anyone else on this forum.
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This happened to me, I was bullied my whole life and I never understood why. My first attempt at suicide was age 12. I never wanted to be alive and because of my depression I am still very suicidal and always will have to be medicated. I never feel I have a reason to live but then I see this and my life becomes worth something. I have to survive so I can help people like this survive. I never want to leave girls and boys like her alone in this world. I can always be the shoulder to cry on and the advice to get, the person who says "Yes I care about you and I would cry if you were gone, and part of me would go with you." Friends and having someone who loves you can prevent this from happening.

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It's always good to have someone to talk to about stuff. People who feel that there is no hope and nothing to live for need to know that there are people who care about them.
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Choclate, that comment wasn't aimed at you or anyone else on this forum.
I was asking a question I was wondering.
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It's always good to have someone to talk to about stuff. People who feel that there is no hope and nothing to live for need to know that there are people who care about them.
That was me last night.
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ChocolateBetta if you ever feel at tat point or at the end of your rope never feel afraid to bother me. I'm always happy to help people going through emotional problems or hell even physical problems.
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It is okay part of my family helps even the dog.
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Sorry for the late reply, I had a busy weekend.

Don't worry, I'm not offended. We are looking at the same thing from different angles. I also may be a bit younger than you (I'm 27) so maybe I'm more used to using Facebook and IMs like a local bar. What teens do online is the same thing you used to do in person with friends at a local hang out. Let's call that local hang out the "Malt Shop" and an alternative the "Soda Joint". Going on Skype to avoid bullies on Facebook is like going to the Soda Joint instead of the Malt Shop. All you friends will continue to go to the malt shop while you are sitting at a seat alone at the soda joint. Leaving Facebook will isolate you because few people will follow to Skype.

Also, your example of using Skype works if 1) Todd's friends and family also use Skype and 2) Todd's bullies never find her Skype number in order to harrass her there. Just as it is possible to be harrassed on Facebook it is also possible to be harassed through emails, Instant Messagers (I actually have myself invisible to someone who has my yahoo IM and won't go away), and Skype. Grant it, you can't hid your identity as well on Skype as you can on Facebook, but she could still recieve harrassing messages on Skype just as I was on Yahoo Messenger.

I also based my opinion on what was happening to her in real life as well as online. She was being bullied online as well as in school even after changing schools multiple times. Should she have stopped going to school after she was recognized a second time? Should she stop learning if the class room is where people giggle behind her back or mock her to her face? Of course not, the school should be made safe for a bullying victim by removing the bullies. I would prefer suspension with educational community service to rehability kids who bully over expulsion. But if someone is terrorizing a school he or she will jump from victim to victim without intervention and would need to be expelled for the sake of the other students.

No matter how you look at it, I think a social space, whether a local cafe or a cyber cafe, should be made safe, not avoided for the sake of safety.
Thanks for explaining so politely, Snowy.

I'm actually younger than you by a few years, but was raised in a very un-technological household where we didn't have internet until I was 16 (and my grandmother still uses a typewriter, if you'd believe it). My boyfriend and his circle of friends are the same age as yourself but don't socialise much online. My three closest friends are in their 30s and the extent of their internet usage is basically Google Maps. I have trouble understanding people whose lives are so attached to social networking because I'm quite detached from that world, and have no younger cousins/relatives or friends involved in it to keep me updated. I had no idea that teens were so extensively online these days...

I wish there was some way to make "online social spaces", as you so well put it, safer for kids and teenagers. Though I don't see how this is possible without implementing draconian China-like security laws And the school assemblies for online safety would be a brilliant idea, since kids are spending a lot of time there these days. It may prevent another Amanda Todd case from happening again.

And ChocolateBetta, I believe you read my post wrong. You don't disgust me. I said that people who are dependent on Facebook/Twitter for attention-seeking and self-gratification disgust me, not people who aren't, like you for instance. It wasn't my intention to single you out, nor anyone else on the forum, as DQ said.

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Oh sorry I thought you said children sorry if I offended you I use the Internet a lot but do not socialize much it is annoying my mom talkss on he phone a lot and uses Facebook and I do not get why people under 13 use Facebook even though they are not allowed too.
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