Hunting - Page 4 - Betta Fish and Betta Fish Care
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
post #31 of 61 (permalink) Old 12-12-2012, 02:23 PM
Member
 
sunstar93's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 352
Quote:
Originally Posted by meganlbetta View Post
I like all your comments. We only shoot what we need. We freeze alll our meat and it doesnt go to waste, we leave some bones for dog treats and the rest is taken to the bush to be eaten by thw animals. Hunting is way more humane than eating meat from a store because the animals are loaded with hormones. We eat our own beef and they have a great life being raised out in the green pastures. As stated above, if everyone stopped hunting, the ecosystem would become overwhelmed as those species thrive
Actually, not trying to be a know-it-all, but (almost all) animals grown commercially are not loaded with hormones. I'm an animal science major and I took a class with a huge section about it. The only thing they give them is an implanted growth hormone that makes them process their food more efficiently. Not saying that eating your own beef is bad! Just wanted to give you some info! Like the marketing scams that say "milk from hormone-free cows"? Not true. Every dairy cow is given a special hormone (BST: bovine somatotropin) to help increase milk production. Every single one. Beef cattle are the same way. Without the hormones (which are harmless!!) there would not be enough meat to feed the country. One steer can be cut into 250 servings of beef! Hormones increase their fat to muscle ratio, making their meat more palatable and helping them to get more cuts of meat from them. Sorry, don't mean to rant or anything but there is a lot of misunderstandings about the care of commercially grown food animals. They are very well cared for, the number of hormones used are going down and they are very healthy. As in, a pig nursery is cleaner than a hospitals NICU center.
Sorry for taking the thread to a different place!

Skye{VT}|Sparky{King}|Sassy{CT}|Quinn{DbT}|Iris{CT}|Baby{DbT}
sunstar93 is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #32 of 61 (permalink) Old 12-12-2012, 02:24 PM
Member
 
sunstar93's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 352
But I am not against hunting at all. My family loves to hunt and I agree that it does help the ecosystem!

Skye{VT}|Sparky{King}|Sassy{CT}|Quinn{DbT}|Iris{CT}|Baby{DbT}
sunstar93 is offline  
post #33 of 61 (permalink) Old 12-12-2012, 02:30 PM
Banned
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Virginia
Posts: 9,050
Quote:
Originally Posted by sunstar93 View Post
Actually, not trying to be a know-it-all, but (almost all) animals grown commercially are not loaded with hormones. I'm an animal science major and I took a class with a huge section about it. The only thing they give them is an implanted growth hormone that makes them process their food more efficiently. Not saying that eating your own beef is bad! Just wanted to give you some info! Like the marketing scams that say "milk from hormone-free cows"? Not true. Every dairy cow is given a special hormone (BST: bovine somatotropin) to help increase milk production. Every single one. Beef cattle are the same way. Without the hormones (which are harmless!!) there would not be enough meat to feed the country. One steer can be cut into 250 servings of beef! Hormones increase their fat to muscle ratio, making their meat more palatable and helping them to get more cuts of meat from them. Sorry, don't mean to rant or anything but there is a lot of misunderstandings about the care of commercially grown food animals. They are very well cared for, the number of hormones used are going down and they are very healthy. As in, a pig nursery is cleaner than a hospitals NICU center.
Sorry for taking the thread to a different place!
What about factory farms then.
ChoclateBetta is offline  
post #34 of 61 (permalink) Old 12-12-2012, 02:32 PM
Member
 
sunstar93's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 352
Factory farms? No such thing as far as I know. There are cow-calf operations that take care of the calves until they are weaned, stocker calf operations and feeder calf operations that take care of them and feed them until they are harvested. They are then transported from the ranches/operations to the processing plants (which are very sanitary) and then stored in a freezer. Swine and poultry have variations but it is all very humane.

Skye{VT}|Sparky{King}|Sassy{CT}|Quinn{DbT}|Iris{CT}|Baby{DbT}
sunstar93 is offline  
post #35 of 61 (permalink) Old 12-12-2012, 02:35 PM
Banned
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Virginia
Posts: 9,050
Yes there are. Like the places where chickens are crowded right next to each other fed hormones and hatched and slaughtered in the same building.
ChoclateBetta is offline  
post #36 of 61 (permalink) Old 12-12-2012, 02:38 PM
Member
 
sunstar93's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 352
I was just trying to give a little information, not redirect the thread. If you'd like to talk more about it, please PM me but I'd rather the OP keep their thread on Hunting! Sorry!

Skye{VT}|Sparky{King}|Sassy{CT}|Quinn{DbT}|Iris{CT}|Baby{DbT}
sunstar93 is offline  
post #37 of 61 (permalink) Old 12-12-2012, 02:43 PM
Banned
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Virginia
Posts: 9,050
The read it in chew on this and omnivore's dilemma. In Pmnivores Dillemia it mentioned Locivores which hunters might apply to.
ChoclateBetta is offline  
post #38 of 61 (permalink) Old 12-12-2012, 02:55 PM
Member
 
pittipuppylove's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Waverly, IA
Posts: 475
Quote:
Originally Posted by meganlbetta View Post
I like what a few have said, As far as taking the large trophy bucks, when I shot myne, there were about 3 or 4 other younger bucks that were in the same field, removing a large mature buck like that does enable new genetics get into the pool
I certainly wasn't trying to point you out when I mentioned trophy animals - sorry if it seemed like that! It's just te general trend, and there's a fine line between beneficial thinning of the gene pool and taking out all of the good genes.

So do you primarily hunt with a rifle, or do you bowhunt as well?

It's funnier in Enochian.
pittipuppylove is offline  
post #39 of 61 (permalink) Old 12-12-2012, 03:07 PM
Member
 
RandyTheBettaFish's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Michigan USA
Posts: 359
IMO hunting is fun and helpful. My family hunts all sorts of animals- deer, geese, ducks, rabbits, and more. I believe that God put those animals on the earth for a reason, and that reason is to be hunted and provided as food. I don't like it when animals are poached, like tigers or other endangered animals though.

Phoenix DLT Male•Dragon HMPK Male•Phantom HMPK Male•Pepsi HMPK Female•Harvest Moon DTPK Male•Dreamless HMPK Male•Randy VT Male•Turbo Zebra Nerite Snail
RandyTheBettaFish is offline  
post #40 of 61 (permalink) Old 12-12-2012, 06:48 PM
Member
 
babystarz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Minneapolis, Minnesota
Posts: 1,182
I am curious about the distinction being made between sport and subsistence hunting. Here, there isn't a difference. Even if you get the animal stuffed you often get to keep the meat. Is this not how it works elsewhere? I suppose it helps that the animals here actually taste good.

As far as culling goes, I've seen firsthand how necessary it is in wild deer and Canadian goose populations. These populations would have died out long ago if not for culling season, because there are SO MANY of these animals that they would foul their own feeding grounds and then run out of food and they'd all starve. It's actually necessary to cull some every season in order to maintain a healthy, sustainable population. And of course we have protected areas too. Hunters here tend to be conservationists, and the same land used for duck hunting may be planted with rare grasses and bird houses for endangered fowl to encourage growth. Hunters realize that being able to continue hunting depends on a healthy eco-system. Which is not to say there isn't any controversy about hunting certain animals. We just had our first wolf hunt in years, and a lot of people were upset about it. It seems a little weird that we almost lost all wolves here forever, then brought them back from extinction, and we're now back to killing them :P
babystarz is offline  
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the Betta Fish and Betta Fish Care forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in









Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.



Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page



Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Treasure hunting! Relic The Lounge 9 08-06-2012 12:50 PM
hunting for clovers nel3 The Lounge 3 06-12-2012 09:53 AM
Let the hunting begin!! sparkyjoe Betta Fish Compatibility 14 04-22-2012 10:34 AM

Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome