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Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying it shouldn't get you mad.... My point is not to hold your breath expecting anything to change.

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Nothing changes unless you change it yourself. Give me a week.

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Nothing changes unless you change it yourself. Give me a week.
Ah, now that I'm on the computer (and not the phone) I see you are in canada. I don't know about canadian law - perhaps it is illegal.

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It is.

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I'll get in touch with my less than reputable friend, he's quick with a keyboard if you know what I mean.
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Not to be snarky, but you were pretty confident that it was illegal here in the States. How do you know it's illegal?


I'm reading up on the canada criminal code - interesting that in the animal anti-cruelty section they keep saying "animal or bird". Haven't got to what constitutes an animal yet...

Section 445.1(1)(b) says it's illegal to fight animals...though the definition of "animal" has yet to be revealed.

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I'll get in touch with my less than reputable friend, he's quick with a keyboard if you know what I mean.
I'm not bad myself

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CFHS | Commonly asked questions about the amendments

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9. What animals are currently protected under animal cruelty legislation?
Current animal cruelty legislation contains no definition of an animal. It refers to different animals and protects them differently. For example, the current law contains a separate section and separate offences for cattle, and also refers to dogs, birds and “other animals.” Bill C-229 defines an animal as “a vertebrate, other than a human being” and applies to all animals equally. Current legislation offers less protection for strays or wildlife than for owned animals.

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If I'm reading and interpreting that correctly... Fish fighting is in fact illegal in Canada.

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If I'm reading and interpreting that correctly... Fish fighting is in fact illegal in Canada.
Bill C-229, which defines an animal as a vertebrate (crayfish fighting would be okay), did not pass and is not an amendment to the law, from what I could find. So, the canadian definition of an "animal" is still at large. Legality of fish fighting in canada seems solely dependent on what is considered an animal. From the limited amount of research I've done, it seems like animal cruelty laws are REALLY outdated (pre 1900?!) which leaves a LOT of room for interpretation on such matters.

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