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post #1 of 28 (permalink) Old 06-03-2010, 11:27 PM Thread Starter
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A punch in the gut to Reptile Owners ):

Well, Florida has now banned the "possessing, importing, selling, trading, or breeding certain specified reptile species" of nine species of reptiles, including multiple pythons, the green anaconda, and the nile monitors.

There's more, but that's all I could find. Here's what I saw...

"Burmese or Indian python (Python molurus).
Reticulated python (Python reticulatus).
Northern African python (Python sebae).
Southern African python (Python natalensis).
Amethystine or scrub python (Morelia amethystinus).
Green Anaconda (Eunectes murinus).
Nile monitor (Varanus niloticus)"

This is an incredible hit to the reptile industry, and frankly is quite terrifying. How long until this particular law spreads to the rest of the country? Then becomes more than just those nine, and ALL pythons are banned? All boas? All snakes period? All reptiles? This isn't even strictly a snake ban, since the nile monitors are included. They use the idea that the pythons are supposedly having a huge impact on the environment, but the truth is is that cats cause more damage to the environment, dogs hurt more people, and the snake population in Florida took a HUGE hit with this winter's unnatural brutality down there. This is most likely a power law, to see how far they can push. Either this law fails, or it explodes. Since I'm looking into getting a python soon, how will this effect me? My corns? Your leopard geckos? Bearded dragons?

It isn't right. ):

Congrats, Bill SB 318. You're a law.

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post #2 of 28 (permalink) Old 06-03-2010, 11:40 PM Thread Starter
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By the way, this was basically a rant. xD A vent. I don't get to do it very often, but I felt this was worthy of one. I'm so mad and depressed right now. I don't get why anyone gets to decide what type of pet I own. It's only the careless that let their pets get out or hurt people. Far more damage comes from careless dog owners than it does from careless snake owners. Ridiculous.

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post #3 of 28 (permalink) Old 06-04-2010, 07:45 AM
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I've heard that pythons (or anacondas?) are slowly taking over the US though, so that could be why. Maybe they want to keep down the numbers etc? I don't know, just throwing it out there. I know that a lot of the problems with people keeping anacondas and pythons etc, if they get too big, the stupid owners release them into the wild. It only takes a person to ruin everything, which isn't right.

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post #4 of 28 (permalink) Old 06-04-2010, 08:12 AM
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Yeah, there is some anaconda or python that is taking over the everglades since it has no natural predators. (They are foreign. I think they are african.) Did I spell foreign right?

Who owns a nile monitor? Other than zoos, lol.

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post #5 of 28 (permalink) Old 06-04-2010, 09:58 AM Thread Starter
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Actually, those pythons that are "taking over" the usa are confined to the VERY TIP of Florida. They simply cannot survive anywhere else. This past winter, when it got down to freezing maybe twice down there in Florida, killed off almost the entire python and anaconda populations down there. They had trackers on a bunch of the pythons, and I think.... I don't think they found any of them still alive. The media has been over-sensationalizing (when don't they??) this, to make it seem like those owners are horrible, lousy people, when the reality is is that most of those pythons escaped in Hurricane Andrew.
Yes, one of two very, VERY careless owners let their reptiles go, but fish owners do that too, along with dog owners, bird owners, cat owners, and so on. THEY aren't getting their pets banned.
I know a couple of people with monitors ^-^ Raised right, they're actually very nice.

Checking on the Cornsnakes forum, it appears this was DEFINITELY just a ploy by politicians to get good media coverage. You CAN still own these things, but you can't own them as "pets". You have to be a "commercial breeder". Peh. I'm so disgusted. I hate people. I'd rather be locked in a room with an angry retic than a slimy politician. I trust the retic more.

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post #6 of 28 (permalink) Old 10-23-2010, 05:13 PM
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Nooooo! Dont spread dont spread i want and need bearded dragons!!!!!!!! :( :( :( :(

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I can't believe that some irresponsible pet owners and the ignorance of others is ruining reptile keeping for the population! I don't even own a reptile and I still think it's unfair.

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post #8 of 28 (permalink) Old 10-23-2010, 08:06 PM Thread Starter
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New evidence shows that almost all pythons that were being tracked died over the winter. The pythons don't have the genes, the instincts, to seek shelter when it gets cold, because they've never, ever in the past had to deal with it. They simply continue on and freeze to death. Also, the remaining pythons are being absorbed into the ecosystem, not damaging it. They're taking the roles that large predators, like cougars, once filled, but are now less capable of doing so thanks to their diminishing numbers. So pythons are actually benefiting the everglades. Try telling that to politicians, though. All they see are money signs and a way to get re-elected.

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post #9 of 28 (permalink) Old 10-23-2010, 08:25 PM
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You said it, Codered!

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post #10 of 28 (permalink) Old 10-23-2010, 08:37 PM
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I rememver last year, when I was in Florida that a snake killed a baby. I think it was a boa constrictor but I'm not sure. The people that owned the snake should have made sure that the cage was secure and it couldn't get out. Could it be that the snake wasn't fed properly so it went after the baby?
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