How to Safely Lower ph? - Betta Fish and Betta Fish Care
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
post #1 of 11 (permalink) Old 02-27-2011, 02:29 PM Thread Starter
Member
 
LolaQuigs's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: MO
Posts: 1,413
How to Safely Lower ph?

My tap water has a ph of 8.0-8.2. I know bettas are very adaptable to different levels of ph, but other fish aren't. I really want to stock my 10 gallon with some cories once I have it cycled, but I'm afraid my ph is too high. I also have tentative plans at some point in the semi-near future for a 30 gallon community tank, and some of the species I would like to stock require a much lower ph than my water has. I know people here generally say don't use artificial methods to alter ph because they can lead to instability. But is there anything I can do to lower it? I've read that peat alters the softness/hardness, does it have any effect on ph? I thought I also read somewhere that driftwood can affect ph, but I don't know for sure.
LolaQuigs is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 11 (permalink) Old 02-27-2011, 10:07 PM
Member
 
Lupin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Lupin Information Super Highway/Goldfish Information Super Highway
Posts: 520
Check your KH and GH first before you make necessary adjustments. I don't see the big deal with that pH IMO. A lot of fish have been bred in captivity over the years and are able to adapt quickly and well to various water conditions than wild forms.

Sent from my desktop or phone or whatever else I am holding on to

http://www.tropicalfishkeeping.com/image.php?type=sigpic&userid=48&dateline=125741997  2
I'm ready for the pressure.
The drama and the pleasure!
If there is one thing I want to see here, it's HUMOR.
I believe I can fly!
I believe I can touch the sky!
I think about it every night and day!
I stand in awe of my body.
Lupin is offline  
post #3 of 11 (permalink) Old 02-27-2011, 11:30 PM Thread Starter
Member
 
LolaQuigs's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: MO
Posts: 1,413
Thanks for the reply; I think I'll take a water sample to the lfs and see if they can test kh and gh for me; I have the API kit and it doesn't have a testing solution for those.

I was mostly concerned about cardinal tetras and panda cories--I'd really like to stock them but I know both can be sensitive to params, and they tend to do best in more acidic water (I read even 7 is high for cardinal tetras). But if these guys will still thrive in a higher ph I really don't want to have to mess with that stuff! I got a c in high school chemistry. :p
LolaQuigs is offline  
post #4 of 11 (permalink) Old 02-28-2011, 12:07 AM
Member
 
Lupin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Lupin Information Super Highway/Goldfish Information Super Highway
Posts: 520
I've kept these guys in pH of 8.0 before. The only troublesome fish to keep are pandas. Cardinals are sooo hardy in my experience.

Sent from my desktop or phone or whatever else I am holding on to

http://www.tropicalfishkeeping.com/image.php?type=sigpic&userid=48&dateline=125741997  2
I'm ready for the pressure.
The drama and the pleasure!
If there is one thing I want to see here, it's HUMOR.
I believe I can fly!
I believe I can touch the sky!
I think about it every night and day!
I stand in awe of my body.
Lupin is offline  
post #5 of 11 (permalink) Old 02-28-2011, 12:12 AM
New Member
 
phluid13's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: San Francisco Bay Area
Posts: 1
So what IS the safest way to lower pH anyway. Now I'm curious.
Posted via Mobile Device
phluid13 is offline  
post #6 of 11 (permalink) Old 02-28-2011, 12:22 AM Thread Starter
Member
 
LolaQuigs's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: MO
Posts: 1,413
Aww I'd really like the pandas for my 10 gallon because they stay smaller than a lot of cories, and they're so cute! But I don't want anyone to get hurt so maybe I'll try a hardier species of corydoras if ph could be an issue for them. Thank you for the information!
LolaQuigs is offline  
post #7 of 11 (permalink) Old 02-28-2011, 02:43 AM
Member
 
LasColinasCichlids's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Las Colinas, Irving, TX
Posts: 14
Talking

Quote:
Originally Posted by LolaQuigs View Post
Aww I'd really like the pandas for my 10 gallon because they stay smaller than a lot of cories, and they're so cute! But I don't want anyone to get hurt so maybe I'll try a hardier species of corydoras if ph could be an issue for them. Thank you for the information!

A smaller cory that is hardier than pandas is the albinos, usually only getting around 2-3 inches, and in my opinion the albinos seem to be a bit more active than most cory. I personally LOVE my habrosus cory, who only reach just over an inch full grown, but it is said that they are very sensitive to water parameters and some dont have great success with them. Thankfully I have had much success with my little guys and think they are the cutest cory ever!!! However, habrosus cory wouldnt do so great in the pH you are talking about. I too considered panda cory, but after much research decided not to get them from many stories about them being rather delicate....and then I end up with an even more delicate cory (habrosus), but it worked out. lol

As far as adjusting pH, (I have posted many times before about this product, some might not agree, but in my experiance it has been WONDERFUL, and know many who use it)...It is called "Correct pH" by Jungle and is sold for $3 and some change at Walmart. They are dissolving tablets, one per 10 gallons of water every 3-4 weeks (or when pH starts to raise). They are relatively harmless and keep the pH as close to 7.0 as possible, and it also eliminates the ammonia in the tank. (Each box contains 8 tablets, enough to treat a 10 gallon tank 8 times, so for about 6 months give or take.) I use this product regularly in both of my tanks. It keeps my pH between 6.8 and 6.9 in both my tanks. It is specially designed not to immediately change the pH but very slowly as to not send the fish into a deadly shock.

*They call me, Amanda*
Tank 1: (29 gal planted) empty
Tank 2: (15 gal) empty
LasColinasCichlids is offline  
post #8 of 11 (permalink) Old 02-28-2011, 05:40 AM
Member
 
Lupin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Lupin Information Super Highway/Goldfish Information Super Highway
Posts: 520
The whole pH change totally depends on the hardness levels. Unless your water is soft, you will have a hard time lowering the pH anyway. You may need to combine tap with reverse osmosis water. However, you cannot use pure RO water as the lack of minerals is not healthy for the fish and can cause osmotic shock possibly killing the fish in the process.

Sent from my desktop or phone or whatever else I am holding on to

http://www.tropicalfishkeeping.com/image.php?type=sigpic&userid=48&dateline=125741997  2
I'm ready for the pressure.
The drama and the pleasure!
If there is one thing I want to see here, it's HUMOR.
I believe I can fly!
I believe I can touch the sky!
I think about it every night and day!
I stand in awe of my body.
Lupin is offline  
post #9 of 11 (permalink) Old 02-28-2011, 08:47 AM Thread Starter
Member
 
LolaQuigs's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: MO
Posts: 1,413
Thanks, I will check the hardness before I do anything. If it's softer maybe I will experiment with those tabs since the tank is empty. Though if they cut down ammonia they might ruin my cycle....Maybe I'll set up my empty five gallon to test them out.


I've heard great things about how active and social albinos are, but tbh they kind of creep me out. XD Maybe if I actually have some and got to see their personalities, they will grow on me though.
LolaQuigs is offline  
post #10 of 11 (permalink) Old 02-28-2011, 06:11 PM
Member
 
LasColinasCichlids's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Las Colinas, Irving, TX
Posts: 14
Quote:
Originally Posted by LolaQuigs View Post
Thanks, I will check the hardness before I do anything. If it's softer maybe I will experiment with those tabs since the tank is empty. Though if they cut down ammonia they might ruin my cycle....Maybe I'll set up my empty five gallon to test them out.


I've heard great things about how active and social albinos are, but tbh they kind of creep me out. XD Maybe if I actually have some and got to see their personalities, they will grow on me though.

LOL I said the same thing about the albinos...that they creeped me out!! lol Now I have 4.

I used the tabs through the cycle on both my tanks, never messed up my cycle.

*They call me, Amanda*
Tank 1: (29 gal planted) empty
Tank 2: (15 gal) empty
LasColinasCichlids is offline  
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the Betta Fish and Betta Fish Care forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in









Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.



Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page



Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome