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post #1 of 31 (permalink) Old 12-01-2011, 08:11 PM Thread Starter
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Help with our pond!

Okay, so we are moving. The good news is this means we can start building our "Final" pond for our pond fish! We currently have 3 koi, 1 shubunkin goldfish, and 1 ryukin goldfish(though I am trying to convince my parents to separate him to a smaller pond or tank, but they want to wait until we are officially moved in to the house)

So if we get the ryukin taken out, that's just 4 fish, three of which are koi and one is a goldfish.

How many gallons should we shoot for? And what filtration level, etc? We have plenty of space long and wide and can dig deep as well as add rocks and raise it slightly off the ground for more depth!
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If its a pond which meets the requirements, then stick to filtering the exact amount of how much the pond actually holds. Instead of double filtering like you would for a tank or overstocked pond.

I give Koi at least 200 gallons each, and the Shubunkin should get 55 gallons. Then you can get a 30 gallon for the Ryukin. I actually recommend at least a 55G for him, which means you could provide him with a friend. But if you can't get that, 30 is good for him.

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We have a 250 gallon water trough we used as their original pond when they were babies(covered in a pond liner, not straight touching the metal)

I was thinking of having that as a fancy goldfish pond, so he could have some friends :3
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Oh 250 gallons is great for Fancies. Unless you want a heater, though, it might not be a good idea, unless you plan on bringing them in every time it gets a little frosty. Would you like help stocking it?

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What temperature is appropriate for fancies? We live in Texas, it does get cold here, but not quite Minnesota cold!
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Oh crap i'm having a brain fart.. I can't remember! Let me look it up real quick, kay? I just know they can't stand it when the pond starts to freeze and stuff.

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I believe below 70F is getting too cold for them... In general for fancies. Like for a Fantail, yes, but say, a Ryukin could probably stand it a little colder. Some are more fragile than others.

I'm not good with tank temp. Lol. I mostly do filtering and general care like tank size and disease and feeding and stuff.

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I believe below 70F is getting too cold for them... In general for fancies. Like for a Fantail, yes, but say, a Ryukin could probably stand it a little colder. Some are more fragile than others.

I'm not good with tank temp. Lol. I mostly do filtering and general care like tank size and disease and feeding and stuff.
I read that if the water goes below 30 degrees they hibernate? I have 2 fancy goldfish in the little pond out back, and it must be getting cold, I'll check their temperature tomorrow.

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I would pm Lupin for answers to your questions.
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:/ I got it, DQ. I can answer the questions.. :(

Nah, they won't hibernate, they'll act like a Betta would in too cold of water, they'll start to get sick, then they could die. Too cold is too cold.

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