Goldfish Fancy - Page 39 - Betta Fish and Betta Fish Care
Like Tree106Likes
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
post #381 of 416 (permalink) Old 03-15-2013, 12:50 PM
Member
 
FishyFishy89's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Central FL
Posts: 2,677
Olympia, your goldies would love it if my floaters would over taken my 75 gallon. They'll get some free snacks!

Brace Yourself.....Winter Is Coming
75 gallon Angel Paradise Updates:http://www.tropicalfishkeeping.com/f...gallon-220330/
Fluval Spec V Steel crowntail betta, 3 zebra danios,
Fluval Spec V - unnamed dumbo plaket betta, 3 zebra danios
FishyFishy89 is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #382 of 416 (permalink) Old 03-15-2013, 12:51 PM
Member
 
Olympia's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Kingston, Ontario
Posts: 4,900
Hehe, I am hoping that when pond season comes around I will find some interesting surface plants for them. :D

taking a break from fish-keeping.
3 lovely male betta still keep me company.
Olympia is offline  
post #383 of 416 (permalink) Old 03-16-2013, 12:53 AM
Member
 
finnfinnfriend's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: California
Posts: 3,303
I keep trying to tell myself I don't want goldfish, but I keep going back to wanting them!

5G - 1 betta: orange dalmatian VT male "Ty"
29G - 1 orange fantail goldfish "Goldeen"
finnfinnfriend is offline  
post #384 of 416 (permalink) Old 03-16-2013, 03:12 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Florida
Posts: 695
I'm sorry but to much is wrong here! Fancies WILL DIE in water to hot, 65-75 with 68 is preferred temps. Reduce feeding at 60 and stop when temps hit about 30. Commons do FINE in indoor aquariums. 20 gal for the first common, 10 after that, 10 per fancy.
Artemis is offline  
post #385 of 416 (permalink) Old 03-16-2013, 03:16 PM
Member
 
Olympia's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Kingston, Ontario
Posts: 4,900
That may have been true 20 years ago but as with all areas of fish keeping, our knowledge has grown and we have better practice to raising these fish now. ;)

taking a break from fish-keeping.
3 lovely male betta still keep me company.
Olympia is offline  
post #386 of 416 (permalink) Old 03-16-2013, 03:30 PM Thread Starter
Member
 
thekoimaiden's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Virginia, USA
Posts: 2,450
Quote:
Originally Posted by Artemis View Post
I'm sorry but to much is wrong here! Fancies WILL DIE in water to hot, 65-75 with 68 is preferred temps. Reduce feeding at 60 and stop when temps hit about 30. Commons do FINE in indoor aquariums. 20 gal for the first common, 10 after that, 10 per fancy.
Wow... Then my fancies should have been long dead by now. They've been in 76F water for months now. Pretty sure Olimpia keeps hers around 78F. No problems from either of our tanks. Goldfish are much more temp-tolerant than most people think. Fishbase.org lists goldfish as being able to tolerate up to 104.5F temps. And many do fine in full sun ponds that get above 80F in the summer.

I would never feed my fish down to 30F. Almost all sources for pond fish recommend stopping feeding between 55F and 50F. Below those temps the GI tract doesn't work fast enough to digest all of that food before it begins to decay. This can and does cause fish to die.

I don't think a 12 inch fish would be very happy in a 55 or even 75 gal tank. Those tanks are only a few inches wider than the fish is long. Unless you're willing to custom-build something wide enough or buy a 200+ gal tank then I don't think you could provide a good PERMANENT indoor home for common goldfish.

If you think what we have said is so wrong, please provide sources to back up what you are saying.
FishyFishy89 likes this.

---Izzy

Sitting by the koi pond

writings on fish and fishkeeping


thekoimaiden is offline  
The Following User Says Thank You to thekoimaiden For This Useful Post:
FishyFishy89 (03-16-2013)
post #387 of 416 (permalink) Old 03-16-2013, 06:28 PM
Member
 
Bombalurina's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Australia
Posts: 4,607
This is a picture of why a common would not be happy in a 20 gallon. This tank is a 23 gallon, and that fish a is a 10-inch long comet. He's only got twice the length of his body to swim in, and if he faces the front of his tank, his tail brushes the back.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg IMG_0327.jpg (81.8 KB, 65 views)
FishyFishy89 likes this.

Life.
Bombalurina is offline  
The Following User Says Thank You to Bombalurina For This Useful Post:
FishyFishy89 (03-16-2013)
post #388 of 416 (permalink) Old 03-16-2013, 07:29 PM
Member
 
homegrown terror's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Tennessee
Posts: 1,366
^plus in so little water he'd need POWERFUL filtration that would be disturbing even for a current-loving fish.

So remember, when you're feeling very small and insecure,
How amazingly unlikely is your birth,
And pray that there's intelligent life somewhere up in space,
'Cause there's bugger-all down here on Earth.

Godric/Eric/Sookie/Frodo/Sam/Vlad/Rasputin/Genghis/Hannibal/TARDIS/
LaVey/Crowley/Dahmer/Ripper/Al/Thor/Skadhi/Freija/Sunna/Mead/Mani/
Loki/Grendel/Gail/Beowulf/Camilla/River/Bathory/Arwen/Lafayette/Deb/Jack Skellington (soon)
homegrown terror is offline  
post #389 of 416 (permalink) Old 03-17-2013, 01:55 AM
Member
 
Kithy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Dallas, TX
Posts: 1,563
My oranda seems entirely content in his 76ish water so... I'm fine. They may be cold water fish but they are incredibly hardy and adaptable. He'll be getting an upgrade to 29gallons from 20gallons soon enough. :) But commons/comets are really meant to be in exceptionally large tanks (maybe 100gallon could keep one happy enough) or in ponds with koi, where my comet is now.

There are many ways to keep a fish happy and healthy so it's not that we're "wrong", we are just "different". As long as our fish are healthy, growing, eating and happy... we're doing everything right.
Kithy is offline  
post #390 of 416 (permalink) Old 04-06-2013, 09:48 PM
Member
 
Hadoken Kitty's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: U.S.
Posts: 1,943
OMG I'm so glad that I found this thread!!! I want to get a bubble eye goldfish. I've read that they actually do better as loners since their eyes are so delicate. I want to do the best that I can in taking care of this fish, so please let me know what I need to do that is abnormal from other goldfish.

I see that they grow from 6 to 8 inches in length...so will a 20 gallon be okay if it's just the one fish? People always say 10 gallons per extra goldfish....so could I even get away with 10 gallons if it's just the one goldfish? I plan to use sand as substrate. No decorations would be best so it doesn't poke it's eye sac, right?


If we are made of cells, then a scientist who studies cells is actually a group of cells studying themcells!
Hadoken Kitty is offline  
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the Betta Fish and Betta Fish Care forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in









Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.



Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page



Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Fancy Goldfish - advice, please? Aus Other Fish 16 08-31-2012 01:11 PM

Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome