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Not quite fish, but tank pets...crabs?

So, my husband has decided he is stealing the 10 gallon tank I found on Craigslist and wants to use it for something "else". What "else" has not yet been determined. He is thinking some kind of crab or amphibian.

So we saw these really cool-looking crabs, but I cannot find any info on their care anywhere online! Panther crabs and purple matano crabs. I am not sure if they just have different common names. I think they might be just colour morphs of or related to vampire crabs/Halloween crabs?

Similar patterns to this, but somewhat different colours: http://www.flickr.com/photos/emanuelebiggi/3982693919/

Moon crabs, vampire crabs, and Halloween crabs all seem to be either closely related or the same species. I keep seeing the name used for different-looking crabs.

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First many crabs need a lot of land space and many are brackish.
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I don't care if they are brackish, honestly. :) They'd be the only thing in the tank (since I know a lot of crabs have a tendency to eat non-crab tankmates!), so they would be able to have whatever set-up they need. They are on part land at the LFS, so I assume that is what they need. If we got them, they'd go in a half land, half water tank.

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Without "bugs", we would lose about 1/3 of our food, be nose high in decay, and entire ecosystems (including everything that supports the popular animals!) would collapse.

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Hope this helps -deep breath-

Moon crabs & halloween crabs- Gecarcinus quadratus:
Though there may be more (sub)species, for the sake of care they're all the same. Originates from South American beaches. Primarily a land crab, their care is pretty much the same as hermit crabs. Meaning lots of land, humidity, fresh and salt water.


Vampire crab- Geosesarma sp.:
A primarily terrestrial crab as well, but smaller than the moon crab. These prefer closer to 1/3 water, 2/3 land. Could be harder to locate. They are freshwater but need hard, alkaline water. These crabs come from the island of Sulawesi, where many oceanic animals have adapted to living in the high pH (8ish) freshwater systems there.


Panther crab- Parathelphusa panthernia:
This is another freshwater crab from Sulawesi (again will require the pH 8 water). However this one is fully aquatic (though they appreciate having a raft to climb onto every now and then). I've seen people keep them in fish tanks, but crabs will be crabs and causalities are possible.


The photos should help, people LOVE making up names and such for these animals, which can be confusing. 10 gallons is quite small for crabs, they like colonies to live in (at least 3 is a good starting point). All crabs are omnivores that love a mixed diet. The crabs on land appreciate a heat lamp and to be slightly above room temperature (22-26C in general off the top my head).

Some other crabs to look into are fiddlers (brackish water), red clawed crabs (brackish water) and hermit crabs (salt/fresh). These are the three most common crabs seen in stores generally.

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What about a colony of shrimp? They are crustaceans and are active from what I've heard. Or some ADFs?

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So probably no go on the crabs for the 10 gallon, since they like company. For the vampires, I've read anything from keep them in pairs in a 10 gallon to 5 gallon for a single. You never know what to trust on the internet!

He doesn't want shrimp. LOL.

Other than ADF are there any good amphibians for a 10 gallon, aquatic or otherwise? (I know all amphibians need moisture, but not all need flat out aquariums).

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Without "bugs", we would lose about 1/3 of our food, be nose high in decay, and entire ecosystems (including everything that supports the popular animals!) would collapse.

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Pacman frog? Chubby frog? Amphibians aren't too exciting of pets.

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Salamander, frog of some sort, newt? I don't know tank requirements for each though. Or you could go with a small reptile like a Leopard Gecko.

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what about an axolotl? i dont know their tank requirements though...

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Axolotls need a miminum of 10 gallons and 5 more for each additional so you have the right size for one they are adorable and I have some babies right now!

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