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Talking Getting Aki a 450 gallon pond! Tankmates?

My Aki is a small shubunkin living in a 25 gallon tank. Did I say small? He's nearing 6-7 inches already. So I've been negotiating with mom for a while, and she agreed on a pond. However it can't be any bigger than 450. And I have to wait until Christmas.

Since Aki likes company, I'd like to get him a friend. What can I get thats still understocking?

Also, I live in a slightly warmer climate 80* all year long. The coldest it gets here is 40* in the mornings. Do I have to still not feed them in the winter?

Sometimes I wonder why the birds stay in the same place when they can go anywhere on Earth. Then ask myself the same thing.
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You have to add food. Goldfish do very well with other goldfish. I am concerned with 80F they are Coldwater.
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You fish will be fine I am sure. What an exciting project! I am very jealous!

Maybe add some mosquito fish, to cus down on mosquito larvae, and some more goldfish. Maybe some more of the type you have.

I personally have a soft spot for Comets.

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But 80F is too high. But might work. Black moors are great.
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Lots of people all over the US have summer temperatures and I am sure many of them have ponds. Around where we live in VA it is 80 degrees in summer and lots of people around here have ponds.

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They said all year.
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Yes and??? Many people have goldfish ponds in regions that stay fairly warm throughout the year, be happy that the OP is getting a great new home for their fish. Besides, if it's an in-ground pond, the deeper the water is, the cooler it will be further down so the fish should have few problems staying at a comfortable temperature

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I myself don't have any experience with ponds but one of my friends grandpa had a koi pond. He took very good care of them but at first he did not have a secure cover over them and so apparently at night, racoons came to the pond and went fishing! He woke up the next morning to find pieces of fish on the lawn (sorry for the graphicness). So put secure and strong a cover! Good luck as well!!!

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To combat some of the heat problems, there is a couple things to do, and that you should do as well.

Dig the pond to a good depth. Cool water sinks, warm water raises, the further down the colder it will get, so if you have enough depth the goldfish can pick where they want to be at.
Try to have the pond in an area where the sun sin't gonna be over it all day. This will also help cut down algae. I would also add floating plants, lilies, water lettuce. Anything that will do good in a pond environment.
You can have more gold fish than 2 in that size of a pond. You could safely house 9 no problem. The best thing to do is add plants in pots at the depth they like, they will help with removing nitrates and all that good stuff.

Is the pond gonna be one of those premade ones or will you be making your own?


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Thanks for agreeing temp is a problem.
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