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Feeding veggies...need advice

Hey everyone!
I know I haven't been on here much for a little while...things in the real world are getting pretty hectic for me... But I promise I'm not gone! :)

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I just won an auction for 3 calico bristle nose pleco Juvies, and I'm really excited to get them, kinda my dream fish! Hoping to get a pair and eventually sell the 3rd after they sex out.
I've done a lot of research on how to care for them and have most of it down pay, except for how to feed them their veggies.

I don't feed any of my existing fish them yet, but would like to be able to offer them for my Endlers, cories, and shrimp too if its a good idea, I know my bettas probably don't want need them.

Question is: what's the best way to prepare and then feed them?
Should I blanch them? And what's the best way to Blanche? I've read to microwave, steam, or boil...but how long and what's the best method?
What are the best types of veggies to feed? I assume mostly greens, but what greens? I always have a steady supply of cucumbers, lettuce, carrots, and bell peppers at my house, are any or all of those okay?

Also, if you have any other advice for me on BNP's themselves, I'd love to hear it!



These guys will only be about 1" when I get them so they will be staying in my 28 (just found out my 26 is actually 28) with the existing stock till I get a 50 gallon from skyewillow next month and obviously get it cycled.
There is a ton of plants and driftwood for them to hide in and munch on along with some caves and other hiding places for them. Hopefully that's a good enough set-up for now!

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I use cucumber slices with Honey, my snail, and pop them in the microwave in a cup of water and nuke it until boiling for about 2-3 minutes, depending on size of said slice. I think the more water you have, the longer it "takes" to really blanche it. I haven't used anything other than cucumbers yet, but from what I understand carrots are another awesome one and romaine lettuce is popular, too. I haven't heard anything on bell peppers though. Thing to keep in mind with the tankmates - the cories and shrimp may get in on your BNPs food. I typically leave the cucumber in for about a day, maybe two, since I have to clean Honey's container fairly often as it is. Heard otherwise it shouldn't be more than 8 hours for decomposition.

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Thanks for the info. I don't mind if anyone else gets to it, they probably need it anyways, will just have to make sure I put enough in for everyone

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Awesome....I have always wanted to get those and a few other pleco-some are really neat looking. Are these the long fin or regular fin-either way...nice fish...lol....

What I like to feed my plecos-is zucchini squash, sweet potatoes, spanich, carrots and peas being the main things I feed. I blanch sometimes by just boiling them in water-but not always-sometimes I feed raw-Blanching will help to keep them underwater better and it breaks them down a bit. If I use them raw-I will use a fork with a string tied to it and poke the veggie with the fork so it will stay underwater and the string so I can pull the fork and any uneaten veggie out within a day or two-Anything will work to help keep the veggie underwater-sometimes you have to get creative...lol.....I usually pull whatever I use in a day or so-but usually nothing is left after a day or if its covered with a lot of snails...lol.....

When you first start feeding fresh veggies or even frozen-it can sometimes take a day or longer for them to find it or figure out its food and you might have to leave it for at least 24-32h-I wouldn't leave it too much longer since it can foul the water pretty fast-even in a planted tank. If they don't touch it the first time you try-start over with a fresh piece in the back an hour after lights out-Once they find it and figure it out you can start to condition them to a better feeding time so you can enjoy watching them eat.

Good that you have some real wood-I am sure you already know this-but for those that don't. Most of the plecos need real wood to rasp on for digestion- a really important part of their diet. Not to mention they love to be on wood and will even enlarge holes to use for a clutch of eggs.
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Thanks for commenting OFL!
I really enjoy hearing your input.
These are short fins, I think that the long finned, along with albino varieties are kind of creepy looking lol.

I'll definitely keep everything you mentioned in mind.
Should I be feeding them veggies daily if they finish it every time? Or should I only do it once or a couple times a week?

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I don't know about plecos, but I have a crayfish that I feed veggies. Cucumber clouds the water FAST. I use blanched carrot. It clouds the water fairly quick, but I do a 50% wc the next day and that pretty much takes care of it. Blanching makes it easier for them to eat.
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Ok. I have a question that has not realllllly been answered yet. Is it or is it not okay to feed bettas veggies, I have had very opinionated responses both ways (of those I have had. No one has really answered me, so I am piggy backing this thread. bite me :p) anyone??

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Bettas don't need veggies, but if you put some in for a tankmates and the bett picks at it, oh well.
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Bettas don't need veggies, but if you put some in for a tankmates and the bett picks at it, oh well.
HAHAHAHAHA waesome attitude :p

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Yeah, agree with Matt.
In the wild I'm sure betta's don't try to eat much plant matter so it isn't a necessary part of their diet. But if they do try to eat whatever you add for others it's not going to hurt them.

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