i think the begging issue is actually what i was thinking. my other oranda doesn't beg. atari (problem fish) begs every time you come into sight. he also spits water at you to get your attention. you can hear it hit the tank cover. he got me in the eyes a few times. i was two feet away and he got me good. his diet is varied. cucumbers ,spinach,peas,green beans,minced garlic,carrots,squash. nls soaked in garlic or water,algae wafers, and fruit like watermelon or cantaloupe a few times a month. they are in a well planted tank and leave all the plants alone, so they are getting their fair share of veggies. i feed twice daily, not at all on sundays. he may be a horrible glutton. i know you're thinking "goldfish with gluttony tendencies,no way!" i guess i will try to condition him away from these habits. it will be difficult as he is always waiting for me.