Stocking Ideas! - Page 2 - Betta Fish and Betta Fish Care
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
post #11 of 43 (permalink) Old 03-18-2012, 01:42 PM Thread Starter
Member
 
kfryman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Fremont, CA
Posts: 2,252
No idea never researched it. Having fake plants in my opinion isn't a biotype, if you don't have live plants.

Anways, what are stocking ideas/ numbers I can have them in?

I was reading online and numerous sites say that because tetras are so popular, especially the neons, they are suitable for my water. They have been bred to adapt by breeders Si that means I van in fact get neons.


15 Gallon NPT
1g no tech bowl in the making

Last edited by kfryman; 03-18-2012 at 01:51 PM.
kfryman is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #12 of 43 (permalink) Old 03-18-2012, 02:06 PM Thread Starter
Member
 
kfryman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Fremont, CA
Posts: 2,252
Oh darn cant edit...

How many neons could be in the 16 gallon tank with a dwarf flame/neon gourami?


15 Gallon NPT
1g no tech bowl in the making
kfryman is offline  
post #13 of 43 (permalink) Old 03-18-2012, 02:37 PM
Member
 
Olympia's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Kingston, Ontario
Posts: 4,900
I'd say around 10-11 should be fine.
You might want to add some tannins in the water anyways, it should improve their colours ;)

taking a break from fish-keeping.
3 lovely male betta still keep me company.
Olympia is offline  
post #14 of 43 (permalink) Old 03-18-2012, 03:20 PM
Member
 
thekoimaiden's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Virginia, USA
Posts: 2,450
Neons and cardinals live around 10 years in captivity under ideal conditions. Yes, the captive bred varieties can adapt to harder water, but your fish are going to suffer. Scientists have opened the bodies of neons and cardinals that lived in hard water and found significant kidney blockage as their kidneys are adapted to soft (less mineral content) water and have to work much more in hard (high mineral content) water to keep proper osmoregulation. The energy your fish have to spend on this is energy they won't spend on a strong immune system. I strongly recommend going with a hard water fish. Guppies and platys aren't the only varieties. Aquabid often has some really neat and strange livebearers like the goodeids. Try looking for a fish called the Tequila Splitfin. There are also some rainbow fish that can live in hard water. You could also look at the possibility of a cichlid tank.

For some other hardwater fish ideas, this is a great article: http://www.wetwebmedia.com/fwsubwebindex/fwhardness.htm

---Izzy

Sitting by the koi pond

writings on fish and fishkeeping



Last edited by thekoimaiden; 03-18-2012 at 03:29 PM.
thekoimaiden is offline  
post #15 of 43 (permalink) Old 03-18-2012, 03:26 PM
Member
 
Olympia's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Kingston, Ontario
Posts: 4,900
Small cichlids.. There are these ones that live in shells.. called shell dwellers. They are plain, but it's cool that they live in shells, I'm sure a few could live in a 16 gal.
I saw these really cool swordtails on aquabid- green with white spots. Koimaiden is right, livebearers come in some crazy colours online :)

taking a break from fish-keeping.
3 lovely male betta still keep me company.
Olympia is offline  
post #16 of 43 (permalink) Old 03-18-2012, 05:19 PM Thread Starter
Member
 
kfryman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Fremont, CA
Posts: 2,252
Meh, live bearers poop so much. The only ones I would really consider is endlers. I will look on there again though.

What kind of shells would I use though? And do they dig as well like normal cichlids? I have seen them before and they are cool but if they are plain I don't want them. I am looking for fish that will look good on display. Plus with livebears I wouldn't know what to do if some babies survive. I will look into Sherlock dwellers. I guess it also helps I know someone on YouTube that has some.

So I could do neons but they will live a bit shorter and have a lower immune system? What do cray tetras look like? If they are the invisible ones like the names suggest, I don't mind them but I want color in the tank.

I read through that page. I might do shell dwellers.


15 Gallon NPT
1g no tech bowl in the making
kfryman is offline  
post #17 of 43 (permalink) Old 03-18-2012, 05:24 PM
Member
 
Pitluvs's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Nova Scotia, Canada
Posts: 2,886
I have a Dwarf Gourami in pH 8 water, he's doing fab! I started him out in a 15g tank, with 5 Glowlight Tetras and 6 pearl Danios and an apple snail. He now lives in my 29g community tank with my other fish. I'be had him for about 6months now.


Pitluvs is offline  
post #18 of 43 (permalink) Old 03-18-2012, 05:54 PM Thread Starter
Member
 
kfryman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Fremont, CA
Posts: 2,252
Pitluvs, are danios fine in higher pH? If so I may get them as I cannot find a place to buy brevis cichlids.


15 Gallon NPT
1g no tech bowl in the making
kfryman is offline  
post #19 of 43 (permalink) Old 03-18-2012, 06:09 PM
Reference Team
 
LittleBettaFish's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Victoria, Australia
Posts: 8,164
Most of the schooling fish like rasbora, danios, tetras etc. come from soft water or lower pH areas. Popular fish in the hobby are usually from places like South America or SE Asia.

I definitely agree that some fish do not do well in water that is vastly different from what they would experience in the wild. I also believe that you will often see the best colouration and most natural behaviour in fish kept in tanks that mimic their natural habitat.

Have you tested the KH of your water? You might have a high GH which will give you a high pH reading, but if the KH is low, you could more easily manipulate your pH to give you a lower reading.

I wondered if there are any native species you have over there, which would do well in hard water?

You could try a smaller species of rainbowfish, but even then they might grow too big depending on your tank's footprint.


LittleBettaFish is offline  
post #20 of 43 (permalink) Old 03-18-2012, 06:17 PM
Member
 
Pitluvs's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Nova Scotia, Canada
Posts: 2,886
I have Danios in 8pH water as well. They are the oldest fish I have :)


Pitluvs is offline  
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the Betta Fish and Betta Fish Care forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in









Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.



Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page



Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Stocking ideas! :D MaisyDawgThirteen Other Fish 12 02-13-2012 08:21 AM

Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome