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Beginner Snakes

Hello everyone. I was just wondering if I can have some kind of help. I am trying to plan ahead and save up a bunch for a small snake. I'm doing research as always, but honestly don't know where to start. Are there any snake/reptile people on the forum that can contribute to my questions?

No, I don't have the set up nor the snake in mind yet. I want it to be small enough to be in my room if that'll give you an idea. I have a queen sized matress, a 40 inch tv, large dresser, and plenty of room left to fit about a 10-20 gallon tank. Maybe that can give you an idea of what I'm able to work with.

I was wondering, from a milk snake or a corn snake...which would be best? I've seen some snakes just 6 inches (still a baby of course) and some can live in a 10 gallon? I dont know how much of that is true, but it's just what I've heard and seen. There are just so many kinds of snakes that I have no idea where to start. (DEfinitely not ready for any big snakes like boas, ect.) I was thinking a corn snake would be nice to have. They are relatively small and seem to be a great beginner snake.

Are there any articles that you guys may suggest? Any breeders that I can speak with via e-mail or someway? I doubt they are on the forum, but you never know. Can anyone help or at least point me in the right direction? I'm willing to read and do my homework first also I know that snakes and other reptiles are expensive to set up. (Well most of them) Would this be true for a snake small enough to live in a 10 gallon?

Also my cousin has a 5 foot boa in their 55 gallon tank. Is that even advised or okay?

I really am looking towards Milk snakes since the colors on them are amazing, but would settle for a corn snake, if in my predicament, I can.

I want one small enough that I could possibly hold at the computer or have on the bed, ect. Also I know that snakes are escape artists so that won't be a problem either.

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Hmmm, I'd say that a sand boa would be the best choice for a small snake. They do perfect in 15-20 gal. tanks and only get up to 2'-3' in length. So do some research on them! ;) I have one as well. :P I also have 2 corn snakes. Those also do well in 20 gal. tanks and can get up to 5'.
It's also best to just get the biggest tank possible, regardless of size - saves you money on buying another tank later. :D

A 5' boa in a 55 gal.? mmmm sounds small to me. What kind of boa is it?

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A sand boa would be cute. ^-^
Always go for the biggest tank you can get, not the smallest.
Looking for a breeder, I'd join a reptile forum and ask around... I'm only familiar with Canadian breeders, sorry :(
I don't think there are huge differences between milk and corn snakes, both are often recommended as starter snakes for people. Corn snakes also come in a plethora of colours. :D

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I have a ball python. They are easy to find, available in a range of colour phases, docile and slow moving. I like the shape of their heads and their markings.

I bought mine as a hatchling about 11 years ago. He's about three and a half feet long. Balls can get up to 5 feet long (females) but that's smaller than most boas.

In all the years I've had and handled mine, he has never bitten. The name "Ball" python comes from the fact that they defend themselves by curling into a tight ball with the head in the middle.

I have mine in a 30 gal tank but you could probably get away with 20. They don't move around quickly or too much.

The only drawbacks are that they can be picky eaters, and they will take long breaks from eating (months). As hatchlings they eat fine, but older ones can go into long dormant periods. Balls eat rats and mice, size depends on snake body girth.
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I've noticed dormancy in balls is most common before a shed or during the winter months.
An idea of their pickiness- my ball only eats white rats. I hear being picky over colour is pretty common with this species. Good thing most feeders are albino. xD

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Sand boas to me look weird. They look like fat large worms when they are adult size. The head looks a bit weird. They are nice snakes with all the colors and such, but I don't think they are for me lol.

My cousin "had" not has sorry. I don't remember what kind it was. It was the common ones I saw all the time in pet stores and such. Like the yellowish spots and a whitish beige color of the rest of it.

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What my cousins boa looked like.

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Hmmm, I'd say that a sand boa would be the best choice for a small snake. They do perfect in 15-20 gal. tanks and only get up to 2'-3' in length. So do some research on them! ;) I have one as well. :P I also have 2 corn snakes. Those also do well in 20 gal. tanks and can get up to 5'.
It's also best to just get the biggest tank possible, regardless of size - saves you money on buying another tank later. :D

A 5' boa in a 55 gal.? mmmm sounds small to me. What kind of boa is it?
Yeah I figured it would be best to always go with the biggest tank just like fish. Hey would prefer the space than risk having themselves cramped as I would.

When I asked if there was any breeders I could speak to, I was meaning just to speak with them. Is there a way I can get in touch with one of the breeders you are familiar with?

I like the stripes of the milk snakes and the corn snakes I think may be smaller?

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A sand boa would be cute. ^-^
Always go for the biggest tank you can get, not the smallest.
Looking for a breeder, I'd join a reptile forum and ask around... I'm only familiar with Canadian breeders, sorry :(
I don't think there are huge differences between milk and corn snakes, both are often recommended as starter snakes for people. Corn snakes also come in a plethora of colours. :D
Thank you for that. That's pretty interesting. I didn't know that.

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I've noticed dormancy in balls is most common before a shed or during the winter months.
An idea of their pickiness- my ball only eats white rats. I hear being picky over colour is pretty common with this species. Good thing most feeders are albino. xD
Ball python. I don't think I want one of those just yet. I want to start out really small and basic. They might not be so complicated, but they don't stay too small. I think my limit of size for right now would be 2-3 feet preferably 2, but 3 foot sounds like a nice sized snake to have. The markings on them are very unique and usually I see just a small difference on each of them.

So basically you mean they are stubborn when it comes to eating? I there a reason why they don't eat for so long?

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I have a ball python. They are easy to find, available in a range of colour phases, docile and slow moving. I like the shape of their heads and their markings.

I bought mine as a hatchling about 11 years ago. He's about three and a half feet long. Balls can get up to 5 feet long (females) but that's smaller than most boas.

In all the years I've had and handled mine, he has never bitten. The name "Ball" python comes from the fact that they defend themselves by curling into a tight ball with the head in the middle.

I have mine in a 30 gal tank but you could probably get away with 20. They don't move around quickly or too much.

The only drawbacks are that they can be picky eaters, and they will take long breaks from eating (months). As hatchlings they eat fine, but older ones can go into long dormant periods. Balls eat rats and mice, size depends on snake body girth.



Okay, so to everyone, is there a rule of thumb wi placing snakes and the amount of gallons? Like with fish it's about 1-2 inches to every gallon. So how would it work with snakes?

Which would be the smallest snake to get besides a sand boa.

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Sorry that link didn't work. This is he color it had:

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A lot of small snakes that come to mind are mean...
Egg eating snake is small and toothless, but I've read that feeding can be a problem and you gotta force it down.
The one other small boa are Hogg island boa, they are gorgeous, but I think they can get up to 4' as well.
I'd go for a corn or milk snake...
Find a breeder, and ask for a male, males are often much smaller than females.

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You could also look at kingsnakes, they are easy to find and brilliantly coloured.
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