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post #21 of 45 (permalink) Old 09-17-2012, 10:10 PM
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Any other breeders wanna start working on Veiltails with me?? :)
I wish! I've never bred, but my guy would be a good breeding fish. I've been told by three or four people on this forum to breed him so far. If you're interested in him I could send you a picture.


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post #22 of 45 (permalink) Old 09-18-2012, 12:40 AM
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I wouldn't mind working veil tails, but we'd need to figure out what an ideal veil would look like and then aim for it. Obviously we'd still want a torpedo body, but what does a beautiful veil tail look like? Is it full and thick? Taper to a point? Even in length with the other fins?

Perhaps we should make a separate thread for deciding what to breed for, so as not to hijack this thread.
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post #23 of 45 (permalink) Old 09-18-2012, 05:46 AM
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That one with a pointed tail is otherwise known as a "spade tail".
They're pretty much the same as VTs but apparently at one point the spades were very popular.

I found a girl with a spade tail at petsmart once but she died because she was sick when I got her.

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<3 veiltails...

STOP "VEILTAILISM!"

wait, that's not even a word... oh well, still gonna try to stop "veiltailism"

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post #25 of 45 (permalink) Old 09-19-2012, 12:59 AM
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I have a couple of spade tails. I think they're quite pretty :) really though, what betta isn't?
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Found a veiltail "standard" if you will, below alfmoon plakat on this page:

http://www.bettaterritory.nl/BT-Bettas4allStandard.htm
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I find... Since I have owned and rescued veils, the "mirror" effect is handy. I bred a crowntail to my veil, Meagan, and since she had a very good dorsal and caudal (even, without damage or imperfections) the baby, a female, looks like her. I wish I had a male or that she had a shorter anal fin, because the fin is too long IMO... BUT raising a standard, instead of willy nilly breeding and aiming for a single form would be best. I have had veils with weird squared, wonky, or slanted fins... Then some with spade, rounded, and very strong fin lines. I would breed for "mirror effect" possibly shorter anal fins and not so delicate fins. Maine had wonderful, full fins. Spartan held his fine well. Meagan had decent semmetry. Fiona had a spade tail. Etc

Adding: but be reminded that you would have to breed solely for perfection, cull hard and make zero profit. Veils are too common to breed as is, so it would be a money-munching trial

Breed for the breed, not for the money; the words any REAL breeder would understand.

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I love VTs. When I set up my future tank I am gonna look for a Banana Yellow colored one, like my Speedbump who passed away.

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Adding: but be reminded that you would have to breed solely for perfection, cull hard and make zero profit. Veils are too common to breed as is, so it would be a money-munching trial
You mean...bettas can turn a profit??

In all seriousness, I've got nothing to lose. Got dozens of tanks from 10 to 55 gal plus two fish rooms plus god knows how many 1 gallons.

What do you think would be ideal sena?
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I find Veil tails to be very intelligent and equally amazing.
Raoul was a cornflower blue Veil tail, and he was HUGE. But he didn't have the same fin shape as the winner.
It really is discrimination if they can't enter shows in the US.

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