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post #71 of 233 (permalink) Old 02-16-2013, 01:23 AM
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post #72 of 233 (permalink) Old 02-16-2013, 03:21 AM
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I agree there should be a class for them. After all if not for VTs the majority of North Americans would be clueless of Betta Splendens existence. If you are many of you are truly interested in showing them maybe you should research the standards for VTs in other countries and start submitting them in color classes till they have no choice but to add a class for them.

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Honestly, I would say that in a VT, I wouldn't mind the anal fin being longer. This is one tail type that I think looks better with a long anal. Also, the under part of the caudal shouldn't be raised at all, unless flaring. These are just standards that I would have for my own bettas. I'm sure we could compile an actual set of standards, but I doubt everyone would agree with my own. Everyone's standards are different.


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It looks like I'm not the only one who dislikes that other forum.
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They BEG to be disliked...

Question of the day: Where is the standard that we're currently aiming for? I think if people start swamping them with entries, not only will they have to take them back as a class, but they'll have to adopt OUR terms too.

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Question of the day: Where is the standard that we're currently aiming for? I think if people start swamping them with entries, not only will they have to take them back as a class, but they'll have to adopt OUR terms too.
You are going to have more luck going with standards that are already in place. Plus to show a betta you pay the IBC a subscription fee and agree to their terms more or less. That being said you catch more flies with honey then you do vinegar. Demanding of a established organization is a good way to get yourself or VTs permanently disqualified.

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Didn't think they'd have a standard for a non-existent class.

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Stigmatagone, Ha ha ha! Good one. Speaking of "that" forum I made more friends on there from having a bad rep than the rest of the goody two shoes put together. I think it took me two weeks to go from a zero reputation to a negative 125. Here are some European Veiltail standards. http://www.bettas4all.nl/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=9081
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I do have to say Chard, I am pretty sure I found a thread ages ago with some of your fish (I think it was DTs) and I can see where members of the UB were coming from with some of their criticisms. Some of your fish had very uneven lobes and poor finnage and I felt that these fish were not a prime example of your breeding program.

http://www.aquabid.com/cgi-bin/aucti...asdt1303116604

For example that is a male of yours I think should have been culled or given away.

While I think UB comes down fairly hard sometimes (they also seem to have malware or something attached to their site as my computer hates it), I think you have to be fair in saying some of the flack you might have received was warranted.

I always think it is in poor taste to criticise one forum on another. I'm sure everyone on here would be up in arms if Bettafish.com was getting routinely raked over the coals by UB.

Also this isn't me being biased etc. as I have only like 20 odd posts or so on UB and thousands here.


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