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post #521 of 662 (permalink) Old 02-16-2014, 04:46 PM
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THanks for the reply and please forgive my questions but the OP Old Fish Lady's first post clearly says that you can plant and stock the same day if done correctly with enough plants. Is this no longer accurate info? I'm happy to plant, cycle then stock but from the OP it didn't seem necessary. My betta is perfectly happy in his smaller tank and I don't want to risk his health stocking the new tank early so thank you for the help.
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I would say you CAN do this. But I would recommend daily testing and daily 50% water changes. Always dose with Prime to neutralize the ammonia.

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I just started my first NPT using miracle gro organic potting mix with a sand cap. I was also under the impression that I could stock immediately too. However, apparently if you use the organic miracle gro it has an ammonia spike for the first couple weeks so it needs to cycle. It has been two weeks since I set my up and it just now lowered to .25ppm from 2ppm. I would be sure to test your tank before stocking. Hope my little bit of experience helps! :)
Summersea, Were you running a filter on your tank during the cycling period or did you just let the plants do their thing on their own? I have a little Marina S10 that I thought I would run during the cycling phase and probably for the first couple of months with the idea of removing it all together once the tanks matures. Thanks for your advice.
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Yup! I am running the Marina S10 filter in my NPT. I just used some Fluval sponge instead of a carbon based filter. I like the S10 because you can adjust the flow. I haven't decided if I am going to keep it running forever or not...will have to see how it goes!
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THanks for the reply and please forgive my questions but the OP Old Fish Lady's first post clearly says that you can plant and stock the same day if done correctly with enough plants. Is this no longer accurate info? I'm happy to plant, cycle then stock but from the OP it didn't seem necessary. My betta is perfectly happy in his smaller tank and I don't want to risk his health stocking the new tank early so thank you for the help.
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It also depends on the health of your plants. If you have healthy, actively growing plants, like from one of your own tanks, they will take up a lot more ammonia initially than the browning plants I usually see at Petco.
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Would I be able to take out my sponge filters in my NPT after awhile? or should I just leave them in permanently?
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Would I be able to take out my sponge filters in my NPT after awhile? or should I just leave them in permanently?
I'd leave them in. Filtration is good, even if the plants don't need it, your fish will appreciate it.
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I'd leave them in. Filtration is good, even if the plants don't need it, your fish will appreciate it.

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Plants like the water movement too...
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Oh never thought of the plants liking the flow, thanks. =)
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question, how long after you set up your NPT can you put your livestock in. right away or should I wait for the bacteria to bloom?
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