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post #1 of 30 (permalink) Old 02-06-2016, 12:35 PM Thread Starter
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Marble Koi HMPK(M) x Marble Koi HMPK(FM)

this pair spawned 06-02-2016, both are the f1 from the female i acquired , this meant to be a practice spawn for the male since i later want to cross the male back to his mother. here are the the pair photos.

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To experience first hand the result of koi x koi cross, to see if koi x koi cross have the tendency/chance to pass down parent's koi phenotype to offspring and to make more kois lol.
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post #2 of 30 (permalink) Old 02-06-2016, 03:14 PM
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My bet is you will end up with kois but also a handful of cellos. :)
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YESSSSS! Following this one.
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My bet is you will end up with kois but also a handful of cellos. :)
opps, i do not like cello very much lol, but if it does, then it confirmed that phenotype wins over genotype on traits passing down to offspring?
either way, i will hope this spawn made it ,i am stoked for this spawn.

bit off topic my super red HM pair spawned today..so happy , now i hope the super red HM dad behave on the eggs and take good care of the fry lol. i'll be flooded with HM's the next 3 month , i have a blue melano HM BF x Steel blue HM BF and orange comb tail HM male x super red HM female going on as well , both of the last spawn has fry free swimming for 3 days already , dad's are still inside spawn tank to help culling deformed fry , those 2 spawn has massive amount of fry. i don't want to flood spawn log with too much thread , will only post those that i find unique and post occasionally for my other non thread spawns

here's a photo of the koi male guarding his nest with so many eggs and a bonus photo of my super red HM male guarding his nest lol
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this is a very big spawn for just a young male and female, guess the life food i bombed them works well lol, the fry are basically all over the surface of spawning bin. good father , strong fry, all of them are free swimming now
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13 days old , spawn got hit by velvet ,luckily i spot it early and treated accordingly, the grow out tank is now very tanned with IAL, but i think i lose half of the fry, there still about 200ish i think since its a big spawn,growth rate not very good ,considering their age now, maybe because of the velvet but at least they manage to survive at very young age. i still let Male guarding the fry at grow out tank, things looks good, i already spot round belly,which is a good sign and will expect better growth soon
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Just IAL worked for curing velvet?
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no, i remove half of the water and dirt, put aquarium salt + methylene green , just doing merely by guessing,i really do not know how to properly cure fish, so please do not take my action as example .
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Oh ok, I was confused by your wording. I haven't had velvet problems with my young fry, but my jarred bettas tend to get it sometimes - apparently it's really common in my area for some reason? - and it's almost always gone in two days with Quick Cure. Probably too harsh for fry though.
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Freshly jarred youngsters are still mean eating machines that produce lots of waste. These circumstances prepare the stage for velvet to step in and sing. I often find myself fighting velvet in young males jars. That's a pity, considering the next tank, where amazon sorority is always doing just fine. Is hard to be a male, especially a betta male. :) Also, malachite green is strong stuff, use it carefully, especially on young fry.
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