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Old 04-10-2012, 11:06 PM   #21 
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I'll try :)



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Old 04-12-2012, 09:39 AM   #22 
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Just checking, that is a VT right?
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Old 04-12-2012, 12:27 PM   #23 
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Ahh, finally can see them.

That doesn't look like VT - Her fins are too round and too short to be a VT. She looks more like a PK. But Round T (long version of PK) females may look like that too .... I still say PK.

The black you see on her is not a color genetic thing - I mean it genetically makes bettas have black head but it doesn't fit into the black color theory. So your girl is classified as a blue multi. If you can get a royal blue male, you will get green multi, steel blue multi, and royal blue multi. Few of them may be solid colored but most will have some red on it, at least it's ventrals.

It may take you many generations to finally get a HM from her. You need to get a HM male and breed back F1 to the father or to another HM. Then inbreed the offspring. If you inbreed F1 siblings, you shouldn't get HM or may take you many generations. You might even need to introduce HMDT before getting that perfect HM.

If you have the money, I'd say get a good pair of HM or at least get a pair of petstore HM. This will be less work and stress for you. IMO your female MUST be a good HM - balanced fins, pointed caudal edges with 180* spread. Make sure both have clean smooth outer fins (no protruding rays). Though you don't know the genetic background of petstore bettas, you will at least have HM's. ..... color is up to you.
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Old 04-13-2012, 07:04 AM   #24 
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Wow. Really stucked on what to do now... Not sure to get HM or not and if so, what colour....it's really really hard to find female bettas in my place. Went to like 8 local LFS and these are the only types I found. A red HM with that would give me purely red fry?
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Old 04-13-2012, 10:07 AM   #25 
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Since red is dominant you should get some red fry, but since you don't know their genetic background, no one can tell you what other colors you could end up with.
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Old 04-13-2012, 11:10 AM   #26 
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Sorry, I didn't mean to discourage you. It's just that you said you're hoping to get some HM's which are IMO quite recessive against round tail. I only wanted you to understand what you're up against. You could keep crossing the offspring to new HM's .... but this means constantly buying new bettas.

If you spawn her to an extended red, you may get multi blue, red with irids, cambodian like colors with irids, cellophane/pastel like colors, plus a number of possibilities depending on their genetic background.

If it's a cherry red, you should only get blue and red multi (blue with red or red with irid). Some may turn out more solid looking than others, plus the hidden genetic background.
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Old 04-13-2012, 10:43 PM   #27 
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I'll try getting a blue betta and spawning it then! Thanks everyone for the replies :)
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Old 04-13-2012, 11:25 PM   #28 
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Take a look at my spawn log (i will be bumping it here in a second)... my female looks very much like that, and my male is solid red. The offspring were for the most part either Red or black with the blue just like your girl. only 6 or so out of 60 had any color mixing. those fish are a more muted red with the irid. blue on the back, and the scales are edged in black.
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Old 04-14-2012, 01:48 AM   #29 
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Just saw it, beautiful spawn! Really really nice betta :) Hmm, I think I'll just breed it with my friend's blue vt and take it from there :) thanks guys! :)
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