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Old 09-02-2012, 10:23 AM   #1 
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Oak Leaves

I've read somewhere that oak tree leaves perform the same purpose as almond leaves? Can someone please confirm this :)
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Old 09-02-2012, 10:40 AM   #2 
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I never heard that but it is Indian almond leaves Oak might work but Indian Almonds is a better idea.
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Old 09-02-2012, 10:42 AM   #3 
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Okay, thanks; I have a lot of oak trees where I live XD
I read a few posts about oak leaves on this site, and they all say it can be used in place of IAL, but the leaves all look a little different than the oak leaves I have... are these okay?
(random image off of google XD
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Might work but not with live leaves dead leaves are better.
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Old 09-02-2012, 10:52 AM   #5 
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Are you sure that's an oak tree?
I know black oak is the toxic type, white oak is okay.
Oak doesn't really provide noticeable benefits, it's more popular for making the tank look more natural.
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Old 09-02-2012, 11:16 AM   #6 
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I believe it's a coast live oak XD
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Old 09-02-2012, 02:56 PM   #7 
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Are black oak leaves really not beneficial for bettas & toxic?

I've been using dried hardwood leaves to soak the water, but I stopped about 2 weeks ago due to the mess they created in the water after day 2.

I'll research this later when I have more time. Based on the leaf structure, I've definitely brought back branches of naturally dried BLACK OAK leaves.

I wish someone mentioned this to me sooner rather than later.

All my fish are still healthy & alive.
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Are black oak leaves really not beneficial for bettas & toxic?

I've been using dried hardwood leaves to soak the water, but I stopped about 2 weeks ago due to the mess they created in the water after day 2.

I'll research this later when I have more time. Based on the leaf structure, I've definitely brought back branches of naturally dried BLACK OAK leaves.

I wish someone mentioned this to me sooner rather than later.

All my fish are still healthy & alive.
I am pretty positive it's black oak that is toxic but am not sure. You might want to look into it, I know for sure there is one type of oak that is toxic. Might not have been enough to affect your fish though.
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Old 09-02-2012, 03:00 PM   #9 
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All I use is native Oak leaves from my 6 different species of Oak trees in my yard and have never had any problems with them for the 30 years or so that I have been using them.

I collect naturally dried and fallen from the tree Oak leaves to use in all my tanks.

I use a single dried one to float for the male to anchor his nest.
I will use 3-4 in a tank for a tonic of sorts to tan the water lightly
I use about 18-20 crushed/gallon of water-allowed to steep for medication.

Per Leo Buss spectrographic analysis on oak leaves, almond leaves and several other types-it was concluded that oak was 99% identical to almond chemically and the fish can't tell the difference.

Black walnut is toxic-the juglone found in the roots, nut skins, bark and green leaves are toxic to fish. My people used the nut husk in burlap bag and placed in a dammed up section of water to catch fish.
I don't know about the black Oak-unless it is what we call in my area Blackjack and I use these leaves in my aquarium without problems, however, the berries and new shoots are toxic to cows/cattle....

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Old 09-02-2012, 03:06 PM   #10 
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Curious though, oak doesn't brown the water to the level that IAL does though, does it?

I've read in other places that white oak is fine and black oak is to be avoided.
It might not be a valid point though.
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