Trying a new method!

[Creat]

So I keep running across this guy on youtube ( http://www.youtube.com/user/ThaiTyBeta?feature=watch ) while I think he has the worlds biggest ego, I want to try his method of breeding in a 5 gal round bucket. Now I may not agree with the bucket being bare and removing the dad 20 min after the last egg is laid. So my dad will stay and there will be java moss also in the bucket. But other then that I want to see if there is any improvement in fry numbers of health or ease of breeding.

After that horrendous first spawn with him Psycho as he is loving referred to will be paired with another multi female. He has been acting better with females, age (he is about a year now ) and experience have helped. He may not look like much but he threw some very nice formed babies in his first spawn, I will have to post pics of them soon, and I bred him so I know his parents. But anyways I have a little extra time on my hands and wanted to see how it works for me.
Here he is :

[ChoclateBetta]

I should see if I can convince my parents to get a new betta from you.

[Legendary]

His method? are u kidding me? that's an insult to all the betta breeders around the world, but since he's the first one to actually put some videos online about something that i thought most of u guys already knew go ahead. Works really well. try my method then! breeding them in a gallon of milk cut in half and then moving the nest to a brand new tank :) sorry i just got a lil offended that's all. let us know how it went.

[vilmarisv]

Legendary: Every breeder does things differently one way or another. This guy's method (just like anyone else's) involves much more than the recipient he uses to spawn. I'm sure Creat was not crowning him as the person who first used a 5 galon round bucket to spawn. There's no need to get offended.

Creat: This guy is well known in the betta world for self proclaming himself as the best betta breeder in the world and that his methods are the ONLY correct ones. The guy just makes my head turn.

I don't see anything wrong with breeding in a 5galon round bucket, we all do things differently but I don't see how that would help you in fry numbers.

Let us know how it goes.

[Oldfishlady]

That is what I use to spawn mine outside...Full to the top 5gal buckets and they work great.

When I set one up-I half fill it with dried Oak leaves, fill with water and let it sit for a month or so. This is so I will have a nice colony of all kinds of critters for the fish to eat and this allows more time for the tannins to leach out to make the water really dark.

When I get ready to add the breeders-I will add a bunch of stem plant clipping to float as well as some floating plant-like water lettuce.

If I did this in the house-I would probably do it the same way-but maybe less Oak leaves so I could see in the bucket better.

[Creat]

@Legendary I was certainly not crowning his as the first one to use 5 gal buckets to breed in. Didnt mean any offense but like said everyone does things a little different, for some reason I just never thought to breed them in a bucket only in square 5 gals totes. And , if you want, to I think a lot of people would like to see how you breed in milk jugs :)

@vilmarisv I can understand any one who claims something like that makes me grit my teeth a little harder.


@OFL I will try to do that outside when the weather turns (its winter now), moved here for the nice even temp summers ;) I have never managed to do an outside spawn.

Update: The male is flirting like mad no nest though. Hopefully he will decide to make one soon. The female is a little freaked out seeing as how she cant hide anywhere.

[Oldfishlady]

I do both, inside-year around and outside-in the warmer months. I have never tried the 5gal bucket in the house-but only because I have plenty of spawning tanks to use and I like to watch them spawn and play with the babies...lol....
Outside, I keep the water really dark tanned-it seems to help with the heat a bit (gets over 100'sF) I get lots and lots of offspring and natural selection too. I leave both the male and females together all summer and remove the fry as I see them to other outside containers. Neither the male or female eat the fry, however, the older fry do eat the younger fry.

Since I use a more natural method to spawn using full to the top with water 5-10gal tanks- soil based and heavy planted-stocked with shrimp and snails. I sometimes leave them together to get a couple of back to back spawns.

As vilmarisv posted...lots of different ways to successfully spawn this species....Its finding what works best for you, what you have on hand and the breeders. IMO/E-not really a right or wrong method per se. I have been spawning this species for a really long time and do nearly everything different than most or what you will read on the internet. I found my own way and found that something are not needed or it doesn't matter.

[Sena Hansler]

I do not see why his method (well...part of his method...) is "bad", Legendary. It is really his big fat EGO that is the offense, rather than most of the methods within. He is someone who thinks he is god, therefore no one believes in him

(sorry for that religion joke lol)

Anyways... Tell us how it goes!! I have used a bin, tank etc, I still find a tank is better for me - but with paper or towels to block out any sight in and out. Every method, every breeder, is different ^^

[Creat]

If it works well I like to think I now have a use for all those 5 gal buckets I have managed to collect.

[Oldfishlady]

Originally Posted by Creat

If it works well I like to think I now have a use for all those 5 gal buckets I have managed to collect.

Laffs...I hear that.....I have about 20 of them, however, nearly every one of them sits outside under the drip line of the house with something aquatic in them...be it plants, fish or mosquito larva to collect for fish food...lol...

One thing I have found out over the years of spawning this species as well as others.....Live mosquito larva mass fed will get them in breeding condition faster than anything else.

I have females that demand to be spawned after a couple of days of mass feeding live mosquito larva...the male doesn't have a choice...either spawn or be destroyed....lol....Even the eggs seem bigger and never fall from the nest...not sure if its 100% the larva-but you can't go wrong with good nutrition. Healthy fish=healthy offspring.....