I didn't see any name-calling. What I did see was one member not being willing to listen and accept that others have opinions and that there might be others who *gasp* know more than he does. I think the thread was civil except for that one incendiary element. Same with the Fish banning in San Francisco thread. The op and other members were discussing the issue civilly, no arguments except one member, who kept complaining. Reminded me of that one person in a crowd who is really loud just so everyone will look at him and listen to him only.