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Old 11-30-2012, 04:46 PM   #51 
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That's a lie. Only melano females are sterile that's the reason you have to breed to a steel blue then back to a melano male to get melanos.
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Old 11-30-2012, 05:01 PM   #52 
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Thank you for telling me. When you breed Chocolate like Carter the best way is too breed Yellow to Chocolate you get good Chocolate and Yellow.
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Old 12-01-2012, 01:09 PM   #53 
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That is very nice to know...

Does the bent spines come from Interbreeding too much also...? Or is it just from DT genes that are in the genome of the Betta (note: even though the Betta does not have Phenome of DT)

Or is my assumption incorrect....

I understand that DTxDT too much causes that... since you Explained that clearly.... though could there be other factors?

Perhaps me researching this myself might be interesting...
Not really sure. I seldom get them from non DT. But I assume too much inbreeding might cause it - I never inbreed more than 4 generations.
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Old 12-03-2012, 04:59 PM   #54 
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Not really sure. I seldom get them from non DT. But I assume too much inbreeding might cause it - I never inbreed more than 4 generations.
Well that is quite obvious... lol.. when ever breeding larger animals like Pigeons.. the F1 generation of inbreeding always comes out deformed... Guess the genes and complexity is very complex and very unique.. The larger the animal gets the more deform the F1 will be when inbreeding.... (from my experience IMO)

Betta #3 turning out to be a MALE... Today I see it making a bubble nest.. ITs huge... I think its also because it was around girls so it is getting the male instinct of building a NESt for the upcoming breed... OMG.... O_O

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Old 12-07-2012, 02:33 PM   #55 
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Indigo do you linebreed?
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Old 12-08-2012, 10:35 AM   #56 
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Indigo do you linebreed?
I did, but had to start over a few years ago. Now I'm trying again . . . but can't really make up my mind what to specifically work on. I'm currently working on improving my super black. It's not going so good though - somehow there was severe spoon head genes in one of them and is now very hard to breed out.

I'm only up to my 3rd generation -
SB x SB = SB and marbles (spoon head)
SB F1 (marble spoon head) x black orchid = black orchid and matbles (spoon head)
F2 x F2 (F3= spoon head) / F2 x multi (dragon line) (too young to tell) / F2 x new SB (so far failed).

Future breeding :
F2 x DT copper or black dragon
Then mix breed the F3 . . . not sure yet.
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I have another line - green/blue dragon. But I don't remember the pairings. There was a King pairing somewhere along the way. But I can't continue that direction. So I'll just concentrate on color instead of size.
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Old 12-08-2012, 02:04 PM   #57 
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You could have a line of yellows and Chocolate and the occosional cross makes better of both.
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