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Old 01-13-2013, 04:27 PM   #11 
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I don't think her spine is deformed, just not perfect. Especially with breeding to a healthy male you should have no problems.
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Old 01-13-2013, 11:44 PM   #12 
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I don't think her spine is deformed, just not perfect. Especially with breeding to a healthy male you should have no problems.
Depends on the reason. Water and nutrition can be corrected. But if mycos related she will just pass that to the offspring. And you have to know the line does not have bumpy top lines to say it is water or nutrition.. because it is also genetic. And you really don't want a bunch of fish that look like that. unless good food and clean water clear that up, not worth breeding.
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Old 01-15-2013, 11:31 AM   #13 
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I looked at the girl's spine today, there is nothing wrong with it. Probably just the picture.

I wish i could get breeder bettas for this, but I'm not sure I'm comfortable shipping fish, and I think my parents might have a problem with ANOTHER adult fish, as I've promised to cull heavily (my male is really docile, if I can even get him to breed the female I may leave him with the fry to limit the spawn size) and find homes for all the bettas who grow to adulthood.

Another thought is seeing how my new copper HM (or Super Delta, waiting on his fins to finish growing) turns out and try him with the female, rather than doing a VT to CT, which seems to be frowned upon for some reason. I prefer VTs, it seems much easier on the fish and they have healthier fins IME.
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Old 01-15-2013, 12:34 PM   #14 
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If you are successful and get any little girls that look like Mom let me know, I love her!
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Old 01-15-2013, 12:45 PM   #15 
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Only thing I am worried about it messy fins, think veiltail that perminantly look like their tails are ripped up. Even as a pet it may keep people from buying them thinking they are sick or something is wrong with them.
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Old 01-15-2013, 01:24 PM   #16 
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That's what I've been a bit concerned about as well. I would LOVE to breed to a doubletail, but as I said...mom's thoughts on fish. So that leaves me with the girl (which, RegisteredUser, I will definitely let you know :) It won't be until late summer though) to either one of two VTs, or seeing how the new copper turns out. He may turn out very well, as I've had him less than a week and he was in crappy conditions in the store, but then I don't know the color genetics well enough to tell how this: (when fully healed and, I suspect, grown, not convinced he's entirely mature)

will pair with the girl.

My other males are

This dork is who I planned to use


My other male, hard to get a picture of his true color, he usually appears more purple.
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Old 01-15-2013, 06:03 PM   #17 
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does anyone know where petsmart and petco get there fish from? local or international? I saw this really nice long tail HM at petco that came in today but was dead on arrive sadly and they barely had any water in the package when it came in.
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Old 01-15-2013, 07:18 PM   #18 
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Unsure where they get them.. but it's standard to ship them with very little water - less risk of injury. As long as there is air in the bags and some water to keep them hydrated, they are fine in little water.
Sad he didn't make it though - shipping can be quite stressful. I always worry when I get a fish shipped.
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Old 01-16-2013, 12:24 AM   #19 
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does anyone know where petsmart and petco get there fish from? local or international? I saw this really nice long tail HM at petco that came in today but was dead on arrive sadly and they barely had any water in the package when it came in.

Petco's are imported, they are the cull's of some Thai breeding operations from what I've been told.
Petsmart breeds their own at some fish-farm (i believe state-side) and then they are shipped to stores.
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Old 01-16-2013, 12:46 AM   #20 
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vizja13 I really love your crowntail female she is such a gorgeous colour and so cute. I would breed her to the HM because of the risk of messy fins if you bred her to the veiltail. It might be easier to find homes for the babies if they don't have messy fins.
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