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Old 02-02-2013, 02:30 PM   #11 
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If you are dead set on breeding him, get a white female that has more even fins, also look for a low ray count, that could help offset the rose-tail
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Old 02-02-2013, 07:03 PM   #12 
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Alright. Thank you for all of the advice everyone!
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Old 02-02-2013, 07:07 PM   #13 
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As long as you breed with a non rosetail female, it should be ok but keep in mind that finnage and scale issues are common and it is usual to have a lot of rungs.
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Old 02-02-2013, 07:42 PM   #14 
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Alright. For a while it was sounding like he wasn't worth breeding whatsoever....like it was almost disgusting Lol. I really love his colors. Even the fact that he is a rosetail. I'm willing to risk the mass-cullings and small numbers for the fish that I want out of it. I've been reading everything in the sticky threads and all of the added URLS in those stickies here. I just need to find the right female at this point. Again, thank you guys for all of the advice thus far!
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Old 02-02-2013, 09:22 PM   #15 
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Leave a white female for someone who will use her please rather than ruining color.

Just get a fish that is similar in color with less extreme branching.
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Old 02-02-2013, 10:22 PM   #16 
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I don't feel as if it will be ruining color. Thank you though.

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Old 02-02-2013, 11:05 PM   #17 
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Meeko, I think it is rather harsh to say she would be ruining color. Please try to phrase your comments a bit more diplomatically so as not to hurt feelings.
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Old 02-03-2013, 12:43 AM   #18 
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It's really difficult to get a clean white. Why would you breed a fish like yours to a a solid color? A multi female would be a much better choice.

However this forum obviously hasn't changed much. More concerned about politeness than anything regarding fish. Well back to Facebook groups for me.

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Old 02-03-2013, 12:52 AM   #19 
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Don't see picture of male but assuming he's a salamander butterfly rose tail.

You don't have to worry about butterfly pattern. You should produce some of them for generations to come.This pattern has nothing to do with white color genes. Maybe white genes will make the pattern white instead of clear.
Second and third female should work in pertaining his color. Not sure how black works though. Depending on type of black, you might get black or irid smudges instead. Melano black females are infertile and super blacks are not really pure black (not sure what makes them).

I'm more concerned about the rose trait. Most rose are genetically deformed - unless you know the breeder or the bettas background. The safest is breeding him to a 4 ray female. But if he is a carrier and produces lots of deformed fry, you will have to cull every single one of them, including the healthy looking ones.

If you love rose, simply breed a pair of 8 rays. Good 8 ray genes will produce lots of roses. But poor genes will only yield few, if any.
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Old 02-03-2013, 12:52 AM   #20 
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Meeko's bred whites, i think. and has bred many other colors of bettas for a long while now. :I i think he'd know that breeding a white female to a multi male would ruin what OP is trying to go for... his wording wasn't harsh at all, he was stating facts, facts he knows due to experience in breeding bettas of various color patterns. he gave good advice in this matter. he just didn't sugar coat things, and he never has sugar coated things. i'd personally rather get advice from someone who's done this before, rather than someone who's gonna sugar coat things.
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