Betta Fish Care  
Go Back   Betta Fish and Betta Fish Care > Betta Fish Bowls, Habitats, and Accessories
Check out the eBook Betta Fish Care Made Easy
betta fish
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 03-28-2013, 01:04 PM   #1 
Lonely Dragon
Member
 
Lonely Dragon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Jacksonville, Florida
Brand new fish tank

So I've been wanting to get a new betta and decided to get a larger tank than what I've always used. I've had bettas all through my life but they were always kept in 1 gallon tanks without a filter...or a heater. So now that I'm older and know they need all this stuff I decided to get a new little fish and give it a happy healthy home.

This is what I plan on getting:

Top fin 5.5 starter kit
fluorescent lightbulb
heater (thinking about a tetra heater)
thermometer
live plants
I already have gravel and decorations.

So I have a few questions and was hoping that all you knowledgable people here could help me.

I've been hearing a lot about cycling and bio filtration lately. I know the top fin filter just using carbon cartridges and I was wondering if a filter sponge stuffed behind that would work to house bacteria? And how often am I going to need to do water changes? What percent?

Any ideas on how to baffle the filter besides using a water bottle?

I don't plan on doing a fishless cycle (completely) but I am going to let the tank run for a week before getting the fish.

Lastly, I was going to get a tetra heater just because it's small and inexpensive but if someone had suggestions for a better (adjustable) heater that's still cheap I would love that. Also any suggestions for low light live plants would be greatly appreciated!

PS. This is my first post so sorry if it's in the wrong section.
Lonely Dragon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-28-2013, 04:23 PM   #2 
Bombalurina
Member
 
Bombalurina's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Australia
Glad to hear you are doing it this way this time - and I bet your fish will be glad too. :)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lonely Dragon View Post

So I have a few questions and was hoping that all you knowledgable people here could help me.

I've been hearing a lot about cycling and bio filtration lately. I know the top fin filter just using carbon cartridges and I was wondering if a filter sponge stuffed behind that would work to house bacteria?
I'm not knowledgeable about that particular filter, but if there is room, sure, pack it full of sponge. If you like (and if the design of the filter allows you to do this) you can even remove the carbon completely and fill the gap with sponge.

And how often am I going to need to do water changes? What percent?
Whilst it is cycling, you need to get a test kit to dictate that for you. Don't let ammonia or nitrites get above 0.25ppm. After cycling, 25-50% once a week. :)

Any ideas on how to baffle the filter besides using a water bottle?
More filter sponge wrapped around the outflow might work.

I don't plan on doing a fishless cycle (completely) but I am going to let the tank run for a week before getting the fish.
That's somewhat pointless, unless you are actually adding an ammonia source, in which case you may as well go all the way and take the 4-6 weeks you need to do a fishless cycle. Running it for a week just establishes that everything is working, which you'll know within 24 hours anyway.

Lastly, I was going to get a tetra heater just because it's small and inexpensive but if someone had suggestions for a better (adjustable) heater that's still cheap I would love that.
Also can't help you there, but hopefully a US person will be able to. :)

Also any suggestions for low light live plants would be greatly appreciated!
This I can help with! :p Java fern, java moss, anubias, red ludwigia (this stuff is wonderful, I'm managing to grow it with very little light in an unheated jar), ambulia, cabomba, anacharis, pennywort, frogbit, duckweed, wisteria, lacefern and hornwort, to name a few. :)
Avoid semi-aquatics: mondo grass, lucky bamboo, purple waffle, scarlet temple, aluminium, peace lily...anything you aren't sure about, don't buy. :)

PS. This is my first post so sorry if it's in the wrong section.
Bombalurina is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-28-2013, 05:05 PM   #3 
Lonely Dragon
Member
 
Lonely Dragon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Jacksonville, Florida
Thank you Bombalurina!
I thought a 50% weekly water change was enough but I've heard some people say it's needs to be an 80% weekly water change. That sounded a little high to me...
As for letting the tank sit for a week, it's only because I'm not sure if I'll get back to the store until next weekend. It doesn't really have to do with starting a cycle.
Thank you for the plant suggestions too, that really helps!
Lonely Dragon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-28-2013, 05:10 PM   #4 
DreamerHorse
Member
 
DreamerHorse's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Illinois
I have a tetra heater and it works just fine. It keeps the]water at a toasty 78. I've never had it in a 5 gallon though, so I wouldn't know how well it'd work in a bigger tank. My suggestion? If you get the heater, prewarm the water to 78 and see how well it holds. The heater seems to have an easier time when the water is prewarmed.
DreamerHorse is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-28-2013, 05:14 PM   #5 
jesssan2442
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: texas
I have two 5 gallons and I do about a 40-50% change every week.. but I don't live plants yet but since you are gonna get them you might need a plant substrate if you are planning on getting plants that root in soil I might be wrong about this because I've only done a little research about that.. are you planning on getting driftwood or not?? if you are gonna get DW youbshould get plant substrate to complete the natural look!
jesssan2442 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-28-2013, 05:15 PM   #6 
jesssan2442
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: texas
also if you do 40-50% water changes you don't have to remove the fish from the tank
jesssan2442 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-28-2013, 05:34 PM   #7 
Lonely Dragon
Member
 
Lonely Dragon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Jacksonville, Florida
Thank you DreamerHorse, I've just heard so many mixed reviews about the tetra heater. Preheating the water is a good idea

jesssan2442 I've never heard of aquatic plants needing a substrate, would gravel be enough to house anubias and java ferns? Would any of the plants Bombalurina listed need special substrate? And no, I didn't plan on using driftwood.
Lonely Dragon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-28-2013, 05:36 PM   #8 
kyle89
Member
 
kyle89's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: south central PA
I wouldn't go with the tetra hearted because it is not adjustable and gravel is a good substrate for most plants.
kyle89 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-28-2013, 05:38 PM   #9 
Tikibirds
Member
 
Tikibirds's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Warrensburg, NY
This is an aqueon filter but it should work for any HOB filter, I dont use the cartridges and just stuff it with foam and I put some at the outflow to slow the water movement some more and then put some tall/bushy plants in front of it.

The sponge will last alot longer then the cartridge and in the long run its ALOT cheaper. If you want carbon, you can get a package of aquaclear carbon and stuff it in there (although you may have to cut the mesh bag open and remove some to make it fit.) Then just reuse the mash bag and replace the carbon every 4 weeks or so. You can buy a tub of carbon for relativly cheap - although I would get the one with bigger chunks of it as oppsed to the finer ground carbon - less of a mess to deal with.




As for heaters, Tetra ones have pretty bad reviews. If you need more variety or cheaper then petshop prices - try ebay and amazon. Top Fin is also supposed to be pretty bad (I have one and no issues but alot of people report they crack in the tank or leach chemicals).
Tikibirds is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-28-2013, 05:40 PM   #10 
kyle89
Member
 
kyle89's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: south central PA
I wouldn't go with top fin either. Hydor 25w adjustable is what I have an love it
kyle89 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
aquarium, heater

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Brand new fish! jfoster3 Betta Fish Care 7 06-01-2012 08:49 AM
Help Brand new betta fish Zooxe Betta Fish Care 1 01-02-2012 04:38 PM
Brand new fish! ninjaofthe9seas Betta Chat 3 07-12-2011 09:58 AM
aqua culture brand 5 gallon fish tank rockstar26 Betta Fish Bowls, Habitats, and Accessories 45 05-28-2009 05:49 PM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:44 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.