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Old 04-09-2013, 05:45 PM   #1 
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Exclamation Advanced Fin Rot... or worse?

Yesterday i found the smallest betta i have ever seen at petsmart and he was in really rough shape. This baby cant be more than a month old. he was swimming in chunks of his own molding fins that have fallen off. Which i know that is fin rot... but can fin rot effect his scales? he has alot of damage done to him and he has a lump on one side... idk if this is a part of advanced fin rot or if its bacterial or fungal... i dont want to wrongly treat him. He also appears to stay very close to the sides of the container and right at the top so the top of his head is just peeking out of the water.
right now i have his water temp at 78, and im treating him with aquarium salt (1 tsp/gallon) and stresscoat+
i have included pictures below... please please help me save this miss treated little baby
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Old 04-09-2013, 09:43 PM   #2 
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i do believe the white bump is fungal.
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Old 04-09-2013, 10:49 PM   #3 
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It could either be fungal, or columnaris, which appears fungal but is actually bacterial. Personally, I would treat with a broad spectrum antibiotic, like a maracyn and maracyn 2 combo, but others here will tell you to just keep doing what you're doing. You could continue with aquarium salt and stress coat as the only treatment and see if he progresses or declines before starting antibiotics. Good on you for rescuing the little baby! I hope he grows better with you!
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It could either be fungal, or columnaris, which appears fungal but is actually bacterial. Personally, I would treat with a broad spectrum antibiotic, like a maracyn and maracyn 2 combo, but others here will tell you to just keep doing what you're doing. You could continue with aquarium salt and stress coat as the only treatment and see if he progresses or declines before starting antibiotics. Good on you for rescuing the little baby! I hope he grows better with you!
Thanks :) i try my best to save the ones who need saving.
He has perked up just a little, hes swimming around a bit. Will the anitbiotics treat both fungal and bacterial?
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Old 04-10-2013, 12:15 AM   #5 
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Beautiful little guy!

In the second picture, it looks to me like he has white, fuzzy patches. This could be Columnaris. It's caused by Flexibacter columnaris which is a gram-negative bacteria.

I recommend using API Furan 2, which contains two broad-spectrum furan antibiotics. If you can't get this, look for Jungle Fungus Clear. It's available at Walmart and contains the same two furan antibiotics.

Another option is to try Maracyn Plus or Triple Sulfa. Both of these medications contain sulfa drugs which are effective against gram negative bacteria. (Note: Maracyn Plus is NOT the same medication as either "Maracyn" or "Maracyn 2.")

I do not recommend using either Maracyn or Maracyn 2....

Maracyn won't work on Columnaris. It contains erythromycin, which is only effective on gram-positive bacteria.... And Maracyn 2 contains Minocycline, which is used for gram-negative bacteria, but many organisms are resistant to it.

I don't think he's only a month old. (Going by pictures posted in the Breeding forum.) However, if he is that young, I'm not sure how he'll tolerate the medications. Hopefully, someone who knows about babies will chime in here.

As for the fin rot, I think it's more important that you target the Columnaris, since Columnaris is the more "severe" disease. However, fin rot is often caused by gram negative bacteria, too. So treating the Columnaris should also treat the fin rot simultaneously.

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