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Old 04-22-2013, 10:44 PM   #1 
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Is he fin rot ?

My friend called me, her blue male was fin rot. I reccomened add salt and change water.
After a week, he become white of his fin.
Is this fin rot ? Or other disease ?

I am not sure his tank.
Maybe 1/2 gallon, no heater and filter.
I don't know water change schedule, but I said everyday is good.

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Old 04-23-2013, 07:57 AM   #2 
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Can you ask her if the fish is showing any other signs of illness? Are his eyes bright? Is it eating and pooping normally?

It's really hard to tell with just that picture. Are there spots on his head or is it just from the camera? If there are no other outward signs, I'd guess that her fish is marbling and changing color. I've seen that happen more than once with my blue VTs and it freaked me out before I knew that it was possible.

Your advice is good. In a tank that small, very frequent water changes are going to be necessary with a good water conditioner.

You might want to try to talk her into upgrading to at least two gallons so that she can keep the temperature stable with a small heater. A filter isn't as important as long as water changes are kept up with.
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Old 04-23-2013, 08:21 AM   #3 
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Can you ask her if the fish is showing any other signs of illness? Are his eyes bright? Is it eating and pooping normally?

It's really hard to tell with just that picture. Are there spots on his head or is it just from the camera? If there are no other outward signs, I'd guess that her fish is marbling and changing color. I've seen that happen more than once with my blue VTs and it freaked me out before I knew that it was possible.

Your advice is good. In a tank that small, very frequent water changes are going to be necessary with a good water conditioner.

You might want to try to talk her into upgrading to at least two gallons so that she can keep the temperature stable with a small heater. A filter isn't as important as long as water changes are kept up with.
His signs is only fin rot. Yes, his eye is normal.
And eating and pooping too.

Yes, his spot is only from camera.

He is blue, but white is apperace in his Dorsal fin. Today, caudal fin is become white a little. I guess he is stress, but I am not sure.
If it is not something disease, we are relief.

Thank you. I learned a lot of this site. And I told my friend. Yes, I'll tell her what his tank will be upgrade.

Thank you for your advice !
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Old 04-23-2013, 11:00 AM   #4 
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Hi Norico. I agree with Romad's advice completely.

You can tell your friend that he doesn't have fin rot as far as I can tell. :) His fins are full and spread out which means he is healthy. The white could easily be from him naturally changing color. But if pieces of fin start to fall off then let me know.
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Old 04-23-2013, 10:40 PM   #5 
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Yes it is hard to tell from the picture. But usually finrot will effect the edges of most fins, starting from the outer part inward to the body. Further the fish will not eat nor move much.

I would have to agree it might be marbling. But usually marbling occurs at an earlier age. The above picture looks as if he is fully grown - his fins have all developed. Never the less this is still the most probable cause (considering the limited info).

His fins look rather clamped. But if he is eating and pooping normally, it might be caused by ammonia/water parameter/temperature. You have given your friend good advise - daily water changes and AQ salt for a few days. Try talking your friend into upgrading to a bigger aquarium and heater.
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Old 04-24-2013, 12:38 AM   #6 
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Hi Norico. I agree with Romad's advice completely.

You can tell your friend that he doesn't have fin rot as far as I can tell. :) His fins are full and spread out which means he is healthy. The white could easily be from him naturally changing color. But if pieces of fin start to fall off then let me know.
Hello Sakura ! Thank you for advice to me.
She send two pics which is she took it this morning.

She chage 2 gallon tank and heater now. She didn't use filter now.

It looks like fin rot. She said that he is not melt, but has red too. Is that Septicemia ?

He has big appetite still.

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Old 04-24-2013, 12:41 AM   #7 
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Yes it is hard to tell from the picture. But usually finrot will effect the edges of most fins, starting from the outer part inward to the body. Further the fish will not eat nor move much.

I would have to agree it might be marbling. But usually marbling occurs at an earlier age. The above picture looks as if he is fully grown - his fins have all developed. Never the less this is still the most probable cause (considering the limited info).

His fins look rather clamped. But if he is eating and pooping normally, it might be caused by ammonia/water parameter/temperature. You have given your friend good advise - daily water changes and AQ salt for a few days. Try talking your friend into upgrading to a bigger aquarium and heater.
Hello Indjo,

Thank you for advice !
I can't decided he bocome chage color.
My friens recently have two male Betta first time. I think she has not test kit. I recommend it.
I add pics.
If you have time, please see them.

Thank you for everything !
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Old 04-24-2013, 09:12 AM   #8 
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I agree with everyone else. It's probably marbling.
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Old 04-24-2013, 09:34 AM   #9 
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i just want to give tips on water changes and acclimation. For 2 gall tank she can do 2-50% and 1-100% water changes a week. Or you can do 2-100% water changes a week. But you need to make sure she acclimate him to the new water temperature so she don't shock him with drastic temperature difference. Another words new water temperature need approximately match his water temperature. I am going to post a few ways that you can do it.

1. When I change the water I put him in the cup I got him in then I take everything out of the tank, rinse everything with warm tap water. Then I put everything back in the tank, fill it with dechlorinated new water, and then turn the heater on. When the tank water is the same as the cup water , then take the dirty cup water out and a little at a time and put clean tank water in the cup. After that I put the cup in the tank and he swims out.

2. can have betta in the changing cup with about 15% of the water and keep adding small amount of the new water about every 5 min for about 5-6 times -this way you he will get used to the temperature:)

3. Note the temperature of the water.

Using a plastic cup, scoop him, along with some of his water, into the cup.
Clean out the tank. Refill with water at the SAME temp. Be sure to add the correct amount of water conditioner.
Float his cup in the tank for about 15 min. (Study during this time. If he sits longer, it's OK.)
Add a SMALL amount of NEW water to the cup. (Several tablespoons, or about 1.5 ounces.)
Let his cup float for about 10 min. (Study during this time. If he sits longer, it's OK.)
If the cup starts to fill too much, remove a SMALL amount of water from the cup. Discard it.
Repeat steps 5-7, until about an hour has passed. (If he sits longer because you're studying, that's OK.)
Gently release him into the tank.

4. To do a water change, use a little cup like a plastic solo cup - this cup must be only for him and have never been used with soap or other chems. Scoop him up in this cup (keep him in the cup about 1/4 full of water - it doesn't need to be much because he won't be in it for long) and leave him in the cup while you change his water. To do the 50% use a turkey baster - dedicated only to him that has never seen soap or chems - and drag it through the gravel and try to suck as much of the poop out as possible, in addition to 50% of the water. Use a thermometer under the running tap to get it to be the same temp as the water that is normally in his tank. When the thermometer says the flowing tap is the right temp, fill back up his tank. At this point, add the conditioner (dose for how much water you change - if you change half the water you add half gallon worth of conditioner, If you do a 100% water change dose for the full gallon change). Float his plastic cup with him in it in the new water. Slowly add a couple tablespoons of the new water into his cup every 10 minutes for at least an hour. Finally, dump him in gently but try to get as little of the old cup water back into the tank as possible. When you do the weekly 100% you will do mostly the same thing except empty his tank fully and rinse everything in it very well under warm water but never use soaps or chemicals. Once it's fully cleaned/rinsed you can refill it and repeat the cup/acclimate phase.
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Old 04-24-2013, 10:47 PM   #10 
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I agree with everyone else. It's probably marbling.
Oh, really ?

I add anther pic.

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