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Old 05-18-2013, 07:23 AM   #41 
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"High" nitrates stall the cycle?? How so?

Nitrates are the final result of the cycle, so if they are being produced that means that everything is intact and functioning as it should.


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Old 05-18-2013, 07:32 AM   #42 
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"High" nitrates stall the cycle?? How so?

Nitrates are the final result of the cycle, so if they are being produced that means that everything is intact and functioning as it should.


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I don't know the science behind it but if the nitrates stay >80 for say a week or more it can & does stall a cycle.
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Was 40, now it's 80 what's so significant about a week?

Any empirical evidence? Or a link to some anecdotal evidence?

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Was 40, now it's 80 what's so significant about a week?

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Well, with 80 I'm referring to a fish less cycle, 40 or greater is said to not be healthy for fish. As I said I don't know the science behind it, I'm going by the experience of multiple fish keepers more experienced than I.
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Old 05-19-2013, 06:58 PM   #45 
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WELL i did the 50% water change and then redosed. today when I tested my readings were :
AMMO: 0-0.25PPM
nitRITES: 0-0.25 PPM
nitRATES:20PPM

:D Obviously the 50% water change worked! I am almost done my cycle. Thanks!
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Obviously there is no such thing as 100% nitrate in solution. Somewhere along the way the nitrosomonas is going to slow its conversion of nitrite to nitrate. My reading online indicates the consensus is at 40/50ppm nitrate, this conversion slows down measurably.

I've personally observed that >6.0ppm ammonia and/or 5.0ppm nitrite will stall the cycle.
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Obviously there is no such thing as 100% nitrate in solution. Somewhere along the way the nitrosomonas is going to slow its conversion of nitrite to nitrate. My reading online indicates the consensus is at 40/50ppm nitrate, this conversion slows down measurably.

I've personally observed that >6.0ppm ammonia and/or 5.0ppm nitrite will stall the cycle.
Yes, I agree with the latter, but not the former. The nitrates in my 125 are always over 40-50 ppm when I do a water change, yet there is never any measurable nitrite. I doubt any of the people involved in the consensus let their tanks nitrates get that high to begin with, for fear their tanks would explode. There is a TON of fear mongering when it comes to fish keeping. Many people just mindlessly repeat things that they read and present it as fact, giving no consideration to the credence of the source, which is often just some person parroting something that THEY read somewhere. It's rampant in this hobby, and it's a shame. It's a shame that people don't find things out for themselves.


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There is not time in a life to experiment, research and discover all "truths" for oneself. We rely on expert advice continually. It's always been like this; nor could we survive any other way.

In dealing with information, online or live, we soon learn what and whom to trust. If we don't ........
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I tested today and my cycle is complete! 0 ammo, 0 nitrites and 40 nitrates. Thank you again for the advice to do a water change. I am so happy!!!
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There is not time in a life to experiment, research and discover all "truths" for oneself.
Sure there is! tackle one at a time. Unless you are a senior citizen, one can expect to keep fish for decades. PLENTY of time to learn. Of course that's only if one has a desire to learn, which is not true of everyone.


Congratulations on finishing your cycle.

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