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Old 10-01-2009, 09:39 AM   #11 
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im curious, are you spawning them in the tub or in the 1/2 gallon?
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i also meant to ask what types are they both?
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Old 10-01-2009, 10:59 AM   #13 
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Yay!!! Good luck!!!!!!!
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i also meant to ask what types are they both?
Male: pure black double tail
female: dragon double tail female, kind of green in color. There are pics on the thread labeld "Finally!!"

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im curious, are you spawning them in the tub or in the 1/2 gallon?
Spawning in the tub. Conditioning in the half gallon.
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Old 10-01-2009, 11:52 AM   #15 
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i read that the second batch of offspring is truer genetically to what youll get. if this is their secong attempt, im assuming due to genetics, if i fully grasp it, they should produce up to 50% black and the rest steel colored, because the green is only codominant.

im interested in what you end up with
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i read that the second batch of offspring is truer genetically to what youll get. if this is their secong attempt, im assuming due to genetics, if i fully grasp it, they should produce up to 50% black and the rest steel colored, because the green is only codominant.

im interested in what you end up with
To bad I can't inbreed a double tail to double tail isn't the best idea. But I have a male (Keiko, he's also pure black ) who will be spawned to the same female to hopefully be able to cross to the fry from this spawn. And yes I will be using the tea.
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Old 10-01-2009, 12:02 PM   #17 
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keep in mind that the female has released her eggs days ago. will one week be enough time to fully produce more? perhaps you should prolong it a few more days.

we already had our discussion on dtxdt, so i guess you have your mindset on it.

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i read that the second batch of offspring is truer genetically to what youll get. if this is their secong attempt, im assuming due to genetics, if i fully grasp it, they should produce up to 50% black and the rest steel colored, because the green is only codominant.

im interested in what you end up with
a second attempt is different from second generation. as for what he will end up with, it will be 100% double tails. i question the health of the offspring though.
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keep in mind that the female has released her eggs days ago. will one week be enough time to fully produce more? perhaps you should prolong it a few more days.

we already had our discussion on dtxdt, so i guess you have your mindset on it.



a second attempt is different from second generation. as for what he will end up with, it will be 100% double tails. i question the health of the offspring though.
The only reson I want to do this cross is because I want to create a line. Which is why I'm gonna take the best one from this spawn and the best from the other spawn and cross them. Since the first ST to DT spawn is all ST breeding to their half siblings shouldn't be a problem.
I will take care on raising the spawn though. I guess I could condition them for an extra week but I already have everything planned out.
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Old 10-01-2009, 12:12 PM   #19 
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no i didnt mean second generation, i meant second attempt. ive read that the second attempt can produce healthier more reliable genetics.

The double tail trait is very similar to that of the cambodian trait in the fact that is also a recessive trait. A fish needs both recessive alleles to be a double tail and only one dominant allele to be a single tail.

Allele - One of a pair of genes located at the same position on both chromosomes. In other words, each chromosome has a gene that codes for doubletailr. That gene in is referred to as an allele. The matching chromosome has the same exact allele in the same exact place, thus a pair.

i wasnt commenting on the tails, i was commenting on color
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i cant seem to grasp my mind around how the genetics of the offspring will improve with a second batch from the same parents.
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