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Old 06-15-2013, 06:20 PM   #31 
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Yeah but you didn't regard the part about not flaring and I get that traits don't always balance out but it's worth a shot and then you just breed daughter to father if you don't exactly what you want?

Also why are her ventral's considered "stumpy"?
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Old 06-16-2013, 03:11 AM   #32 
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Not a very good pis by any means and not inf full flare. Got good branching but can not determine spread or the length of the outside rays. They need to be long to have the desired sharp edges of the desired "D" shape. The length of the tail rays is a bit short compared to the other two fins. Needs a bit more length for better balance.

Dorsal is branched but the first rays re too short. Those first 4 need to be longer. The width shows he has some DT up the genetic pike. The spikes would be faulted as only fin with them. It is all about symmetry.

Anal is a bit long and has some slope. As a breeder you want to level that out and have it same length as the other fins.

Color wise he is a multi. Would take a lot of work to clean up and go solid or marble. Even BF is not clean enough to be an easy fix. Top line on this male is bumpy. He is also a bit pinched in and narrow at the base of the tail.
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Old 06-16-2013, 03:19 AM   #33 
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You need to have a plan and a direction to breed. What do you want to accomplish with that male? You will not get clean BF's and there is a lot of marble in that male. Ideally you will breed for more multi type fish.

The blue female has better overall balance than the second. Her tail edges are rounded but she has good branching and I like the level anal. It is a bi-ch to get slope out.

Second female I like for the color and the the longer tail length. She would be my hands down choice except for that sloped anal. She has good tail branching and better edges. The dorsal also has some length so it ties in nice to the tail.

It is kinda a toss up.. so you have to know what you want in the end. It you want to show.. or not. Ideally you get both and work parallel lines. One for form [blue] and the other for color [marble]
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Old 06-16-2013, 05:31 PM   #34 
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Thanks! I haven't had the time to grab good pictures of both of them, but I'll be able to get it done tomorrow.

Still not sure when I'll get around to breeding them if I do decide to do it. I might go any buy a quality HM pair from AB. I'm just trying to see what would be a good find and see what flaws would have to be balanced out.
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Old 06-16-2013, 08:18 PM   #35 
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I don't bred,I rescue the homeless bettas, no matter what anyone says he is WOW Beautiful,good luck with him
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Old 07-14-2013, 04:20 PM   #36 
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He's pretty!
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Old 07-25-2013, 01:26 AM   #37 
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Kiara that fish is gorgeous!! I'm no pro, but I'm a little bit in love!
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Old 07-25-2013, 01:33 PM   #38 
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Haha, thanks! He's changed so much. He's completely blue and green now, but he's got a bit of red on his dorsal and anal fin. It's so thick and it just sticks out. He's so gorgeous. I'm glad I got him. :)
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I want him!! Lol
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Old 07-30-2013, 03:05 AM   #40 
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Males dorsal is very stair stepped.. tail seems more delta than HM. The top outside rays are curved rather than straight. Tail too short in proportion to other fins and the anal is a bit long and sloped. Color wise he is a poor butterfly, he has t hat BF banding on all 3 fins and would be placed in that class. But poor color separation would make him not competitive.

None of the females will get you to quality fish. The female will stamp the fry.. and these are not worth reproducing. I have found 80-90% of my offspring look like their mothers. Do NOT breed poor quality females.
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