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Old 09-18-2013, 05:45 PM   #1 
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Several questions about betta care?

I've been all over the internet with questions, but I usually get scolded whenever I ask them. This forum seemed pretty cool... I hope I can get some at least kindly worded answers, haha!

I have a 2.5 gallon tank with a heater, no filter. This is the point where people get upset with me. "YOU NEED AT LEAST 5 GALLS FOR A BETTA!!!! ARG YOU MONSTER" and "zomg all fish need filters, you dunce." Honestly, 2.5 is a lot better than what most bettas get as sad as that is. I'm going to do my best with it.

There will be one fish with a silk plant or two and a fixture to hind in. I'll have gravel or rocks on the bottom, which I'll buy a vacuum for to clean.

Now for my questions:

How often should I clean a 2.5 gallon, unfiltered tank? As it stands, I want to do a 50% once a week for two weeks, and on the third week a 100%. I don't know if that is good or not, which is why I am asking. Totally, 100% going to listen to what you guys have to say about this one! :)

How do I make spring water safe for a betta? Unfortunately, the water where I live is just impossible to work with. Anyone who has ever used it, conditioned or not, has ended up with a dead fish. My friend use spring water by itself and her fish seem healthy and have massive bubble nests. I will be buying three gallons and paying for refills at the store.

Please critique me about the filter and tank size situation if you truly feel like I'm going to regret not upgrading. I am considering getting a filter later on, but I have no idea what to get for a 2.5 gallon tank and honestly I don't want to spend the money on one. That's one of the reasons why I choose a betta. I've heard that they get their oxygen on their own and, as long as I keep the tank clean, I shouldn't need a filter anyway? I don't know... in all honesty, I am a fish rookie and this would be the first one I have taken care of completely on my own.

Thanks in advance for any and all answers!
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Old 09-18-2013, 06:02 PM   #2 
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Hey i am successful betta owner. One of my fish is older than 5 years old , a few are 3 and 3.5 years old and others younger. I never had filter. Well my very first one had though. But he lived only for one year. So those that i have now never had filters. Filters are not necessity at all.
2.5 gall is good. Almost all my tanks are 2.5 . I have one 5 gall and 3 one gall at work. So you good.
Spring water people saying not enough minerals but i know someone who has a betta already for 6 mon in the spring water. So since oyu don't have a choice i guess it fine.
Water changes you need to do 1-50 and 1-100% a week . Or you can do what i do. I am lazy to do 50% so i just do one full 100 water change every 6 days for my 2.5 gall .
Food very important. Do not feed flakes. Not all food is good and can course constipation. If you have dried freeze blood worms my bettas love them . You feed it as a snack about 2-3 times a wk. Frozen blood worms i just started , i feed once a wk has a lot of nutrients and good for the immune system (has protein in it)

Very important acclimate your betta when you do full water change because you don't want to shock him with the drastic temp difference

Next post i want to give you instructions on acclimation if you need it and best betta food:)
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Old 09-18-2013, 06:05 PM   #3 
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acclimation and actually i want to give you another link i like check it out
http://www.bettafish.com/showthread....98#post2340898

http://www.bigalspets.com/betta-form...lets-50-g.html


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Old 09-18-2013, 06:06 PM   #4 
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Here is a few variations that's pretty simple:
1. can have betta in the changing cup with about 15% of the water and keep adding small amount of the new water about every 5 min for about 5-6 times -this way you he will get used to the temperature:)

2. Note the temperature of the water.

Using a plastic cup, scoop him, along with some of his water, into the cup.
Clean out the tank. Refill with water at the SAME temp. Be sure to add the correct amount of water conditioner.
Float his cup in the tank for about 15 min. (Study during this time. If he sits longer, it's OK.)
Add a SMALL amount of NEW water to the cup. (Several tablespoons, or about 1.5 ounces.)
Let his cup float for about 10 min. (Study during this time. If he sits longer, it's OK.)
If the cup starts to fill too much, remove a SMALL amount of water from the cup. Discard it.
Repeat steps 5-7, until about an hour has passed. (If he sits longer because you're studying, that's OK.)
Gently release him into the tank.

3. To do a water change, use a little cup like a plastic solo cup - this cup must be only for him and have never been used with soap or other chems. Scoop him up in this cup (keep him in the cup about 1/4 full of water - it doesn't need to be much because he won't be in it for long) and leave him in the cup while you change his water. To do the 50% use a turkey baster - dedicated only to him that has never seen soap or chems - and drag it through the gravel and try to suck as much of the poop out as possible, in addition to 50% of the water. Use a thermometer under the running tap to get it to be the same temp as the water that is normally in his tank. When the thermometer says the flowing tap is the right temp, fill back up his tank. At this point, add the conditioner (dose for how much water you change - if you change half the water you add half gallon worth of conditioner, If you do a 100% water change dose for the full gallon change). Float his plastic cup with him in it in the new water. Slowly add a couple tablespoons of the new water into his cup every 10 minutes for at least an hour. Finally, dump him in gently but try to get as little of the old cup water back into the tank as possible. When you do the weekly 100% you will do mostly the same thing except empty his tank fully and rinse everything in it very well under warm water but never use soaps or chemicals. Once it's fully cleaned/rinsed you can refill it and repeat the cup/acclimate phase.

4. When I change the water I put him in the cup I got him in then I take everything out of the tank, rinse everything with warm tap water. Then I put everything back in the tank, fill it with dechlorinated new water, and then turn the heater on. When the tank water is the same as the cup water , then take the dirty cup water out and a little at a time and put clean tank water in the cup. After that I put the cup in the tank and he swims out.
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Old 09-18-2013, 06:11 PM   #5 
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Betta really don't need a filter if you keep the tank clean and do proper water changes. Filters just help keep it cleaner a little longer. Just makes things a little easier for you really. As for water changes without a filter... I'd say the normal 50% half way through the week and 100% at the end.
As for a filter option if you decide to get one later, I had a tetra 3i that I loved. I gave it to my friend who also has a 2.5gal and she loves it too.
And tank size is a personal opinion to be honest. Some people say 5gal is the minimum, other say 2.5 and some say 1 gal. I say 2.5 is the minimum but that's just me.
And as for the spring water. I THINK it's safe by itself but I've never used it so don't take my word for that.
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Old 09-18-2013, 08:18 PM   #6 
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Thanks so much, guys! I'm very relieved :) I'll do 100% water changes weekly. If the tank is starting to look gross before that, I'll do a 25-50% every three or four days. As for everything else... I think I've got a good handle of this now.

Quick question, though - I'll be washing everything with tap water that is not what I will be using for the fish's main water. Is that okay?
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Quick question, though - I'll be washing everything with tap water that is not what I will be using for the fish's main water. Is that okay?
It should be fine. Just try to dry it off before you put it in the tank with the spring water.
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Old 09-19-2013, 05:31 AM   #8 
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My bettas don't have filters. As long as you do enough water changes it's fine not to have them. I tried at one point but my bettas didn't seem to like them much. In my opinion, 2.5 gallons is fine as long as you do proper water changes and the betta is happy. Question though, will the betta have a heater? Do you know what temperature the tank will be?
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Old 09-19-2013, 08:33 PM   #9 
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I do have a heater, I'm not sure how well it will work though as I haven't used it in awhile. If it seems to get too hot or not hot enough, I'll probably buy a new one. I haven't tested what temperature it gets yet ^^" I know It's supposed to be between 70-80.
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Old 09-20-2013, 12:08 AM   #10 
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if you even buy new heater always test it first before you put it in the tank with your betta. Check it in the clean bucked or in the other tank if you have one at least for 24 hrs to make sure its can keep the temperature and if its defective and not leaching anything in the water.
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