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Old 10-03-2013, 07:37 AM   #1 
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Unhappy Male betta on his side at top of tank

Hello, our male betta is not doing well at all. About a week ago we noticed he wasn't really eating much. Then after a few more days we noticed his swimming was a bit weird. He would float tail-first to the top and then swim back down. Now he is just on his side at the top of the tank. After we first noticed his odd behavior we changed his water, which did nothing.
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He lives in a 3L container and we change the water frequently to keep it clean and always do a full water change. He has always reacted fine to this. We do not use a filtration system or any other mechanical device. No 02 stones or anything like that. We treat the water with a betta specific water treatment. Probably the main thing we have done wrong is over-feed him. He probably ate 10-12 micro pellets a day easy. He's been eating that way for about 10 months.
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Old 10-03-2013, 07:54 AM   #2 
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It sounds like a swim bladder problem, put a tiny amount of Epsom salt in his tank, and don't feed him for a while until he gets back to normal. Also put him in front of mirrors to help. Swim bladder is often caused by over-feeding and constipation. The salt helps and the mirrors help to make him flare which causes him to poop. It should work and it may takes couple of days though. Good luck!
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Old 10-03-2013, 09:10 AM   #3 
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Make sure the espom salt is pure and not scented. It's great you are keeping up with his water changes not everyone does. However, once he is well please consider getting him a bigger container at least a 3.80 l preferably a 7.80 l. You will be surprised how much a betta enjoys the extra room.
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please consider getting him a bigger container
we're definitely looking for one! Thanks for the feedback. I'll try the epson salt. Though how long can they go without eating. It's already been a week at least, I think.
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How much salt should I actually put? Like 1/2 tsp? Or less..more? Help!
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Old 10-06-2013, 08:39 PM   #6 
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Sorry I didn't look at your thread again. Did your betta get any better?
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Old 10-06-2013, 08:58 PM   #7 
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When treating with Epsom Salt you can use up to 3/tsp per gallon, so that would be....about 2.5 tsp in your 3 liter tank.
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Well I tried the epsom salt, but after two more days with no progress I decided it would be better to put him down. He just kept looking worse and worse and his breathing was getting more and more shallow (or that's what it looked like). We just couldn't take it. Thanks for the helpful feedback though. We learned a lot and I think we'll have another one soon. (Our 3yr old girl was sad and is asking for a fish that won't die)
Any suggestions? I had no idea there were even different kinds of betta until we bought this one.
Thanks again for all your help.

Joe
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Old 10-06-2013, 09:13 PM   #9 
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Well I tried the epsom salt, but after two more days with no progress I decided it would be better to put him down. He just kept looking worse and worse and his breathing was getting more and more shallow (or that's what it looked like). We just couldn't take it. Thanks for the helpful feedback though. We learned a lot and I think we'll have another one soon. (Our 3yr old girl was sad and is asking for a fish that won't die)
Any suggestions? I had no idea there were even different kinds of betta until we bought this one.
Thanks again for all your help.

Joe
Just for future reference, SBD can take a while to get better. Bettas can go for weeks without eating. I just brought a SBD case home from work (I work at a LPS), not as bad as yours though. It's scary to deal with, but I've never lost one from it (knock on wood) and I've had some who floated like yours for up to a week.

Goldfish have very long lives. But, they require 30+ gallons.
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Bettas are generally pretty hardy fish and easy keepers. They can live for several years if properly cared for. Just make sure to pick one that looks very healthy in the store. No fin rot or fungus, not too skinny, not floating on their side, etc. All of these things are signs that they have been in poor conditions for awhile as these signs of illness don't happen overnight, and that could mean they are already doomed when you bring them home.

I suggest finding out what day your pet store gets new shipments, and pick a brand new arrival that hasn't had time to be neglected in the store.
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