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Old 10-23-2013, 04:21 PM   #1 
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Red face Update: extremely cloudy water, ammonia through the roof, prime...

Background: 30L glass tank; filtered (Hagen Elite Hush 10); heated; gravel substrate; planted (hygrophila, bacopa and crypt); driftwood; cave; using API Master Test Kit; resident 1 male VT, 3 weeks into cycle.


A couple of days back I came home to find my tank had completely clouded over, to the point where I could barely see Kiedis. I immediately tested the water and the ammonia was through the roof. There was also a thick white film on the surface and throughout the tank, it stuck to the sides and all the plants, and had an almost jelly like, stringy texture. Kiedis was showing no signs of stress and carrying on like normal.

As recommended by users here, I did an 80% water change and treated the water with what I had on hand at the time (Nutrafin Plus, Nutrafin Cycle and API Ammolock). This barely improved the situtation.

Yesterday morning I purchased some Seachem Prime, came home and pulled everything but the gravel from the tank and started cleaning the gravel like never before. It took me three buckets of water to clean the gravel with a vacuum! Each time I had to refill and empty the tank, so essentially I did a 100% water change. The gravel was full of plant matter and fish waste even though I vacuum once a week.

I'm not sure what this will do for my cycle, I may have killed it, but with the ammonia levels so high I had little choice. Ammonia is still showing in the tank at 0.25ppm, so I'm using a slightly higher dose of Prime than recommended. The tank is also still a little cloudy after putting the plants and decor back in (I had these and all the filter media sitting in a bucket of old tank water, so only the gravel got a really thorough clean).

Have I handled this situation right? I didn't know what else to do at the time. Kiedis is fine, a little unhappy that I had to replace his sponge filter baffle with a plastic bottle one (the sponge was holding a LOT of the white gunk) but I'm hoping he will get used to it. If he starts tail biting then I will look into getting a new filter with less current.

Sorry for the novel, but I don't want to leave anything out. From here I plan on keeping up with partial water changes / gravel vacuuming every 2 days, as well as dosing with Prime (using a higher dose when needed). Not sure what else I can do...

What do you think I should do from here?
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Old 10-23-2013, 07:15 PM   #2 
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Old 10-23-2013, 07:35 PM   #3 
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You handled it fine. May see a little bump in the cycle.

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Old 10-24-2013, 08:21 AM   #4 
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You did the right thing by bailing out. You're starting all over with your cycle. Depending on your filter media,You might get it back quicker than last time.

I guess you've learned to vacuum better. but I'm not sure why you should have to. A single Betta won't send ammonia "through the roof." What was the reading? Any nitrite? What is your tap ammonia? And what's your pH?

Water changes of 50% whenever ammonia rises >0.25. Same with nitrite.

You don't have to double-dose Prime except in emergency situations and high nitrite.

Are your plants shedding a lot because they're new?

Don;t know about the white film. Do you have pictures?
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You did the right thing by bailing out. You're starting all over with your cycle. Depending on your filter media,You might get it back quicker than last time.

I guess you've learned to vacuum better. but I'm not sure why you should have to. A single Betta won't send ammonia "through the roof." What was the reading? Any nitrite? What is your tap ammonia? And what's your pH?

Water changes of 50% whenever ammonia rises >0.25. Same with nitrite.

You don't have to double-dose Prime except in emergency situations and high nitrite.

Are your plants shedding a lot because they're new?

Don;t know about the white film. Do you have pictures?
I'm really puzzled too! Ammonia was 4ppm, no nitries. There is no ammonia in my tap water and pH is around 7.0.

There's a picture in my original post but I'll try put it on here too...
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Bacteria like slightly higher pH. But don't mess with it; that's a tailchase. It just may take a little longer to cycle. Fortunately, low pH lowers free ammonia, making it less toxic.

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That's my original post. I'm so annoyed about having to start my cycle all over again! I also think my fish got some fin rot from the ammonia spike...
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