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Old 12-08-2013, 12:46 AM   #11 
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He has more red streaks on his body, and they appear to be forming on his tail fins. He seems a slight bit sluggish. Much more obvious now. I think I'm gonna try to medicate him with a gram negative antibiotic, I have kanaplex on hand. Any other suggestions? He is clearly not just getting better.
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Old 12-08-2013, 12:50 AM   #12 
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Do you have pictures?

If you have kanaplex, it would probably be effective or at least help if this actually is septicemia. Make sure to complete the full course and keep him absolutely quarantined.
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Old 12-08-2013, 12:55 AM   #13 
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I would go ahead and try the Kanaplex. Some of the symptoms of septicemia, according to a book I have can include dropsy and popeye. +1 Matt.
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I'm starting to get worried about the use of kanaplex for so many things because it's only a matter of time before resistance starts, but for septicemia you need something that goes internal... Here's what darkmoon's guide says... Keep in mind it's starting to go out of date-

•Symptoms: Bloody red streaks across the body and/or fins, lethargic, loss of apetite, clamped, gasping for air, bloated, ulcers.
•Treatment: Septicemia is caused by an internal bacterial infection. From what I’ve read, it can be due to compromised digestion as a result of rapid drops in temperature. Since Nitrite poisoning can also cause red streaks, check for that first. I do not know if it can be treated conservatively as I have never tried. Though it is not contagious, isolate sick fish. Perform daily 100% water changes. Treat with API Tetracycline, API Erythromiacin, Mardel’s Maracyn II OR Jungle’s Fungus Clear/Eliminator. If you are treating with something that does not contain Metronidoxole then combine the treatment with Jungle’s Anti-Parasite pellets. During treatment, use 1tsp/gal Aq.Salt and Stress Coat (as directed on bottle) to help prevent secondary infections.
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Old 12-08-2013, 01:41 AM   #15 
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Yep, I got a few. They're fuzzy, was having focus issues with the camera, but the color is still visible.


You can see the redness in the veins along the ventral and dorsal margins of his body.


You can see the redness behind his gill and, again, along his margins.


The red spots / streaks are slightly visible at the base of his tail as a pink blur (camera was giving me heck). He also has similar spots on his right side behind his lateral fin and on top of his head.

If you're not sure what I'm talking about, as per the redness, I can point it out with lines and doodles :)
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Old 12-09-2013, 02:23 AM   #16 
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So there's still a bit more red today, and we started him on Kanaplex (food and in water). No change with the lump on his tail yet. No improvement yet, hasn't gotten particularly worse either.
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Old 12-09-2013, 05:54 PM   #18 
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No improvements in the red splotches / streaks, but his behaviour is still perky and happy, and he's still eating like a little pig. Hard to say, just because 2 of the streaks look like lesions, but my other half thinks maybe that the red is also part of the marbling. I'd find it hard to imagine a cellophane dalmation dragonscale twintail with iridescent blue coloration could also have red spots, but who knows at this point. He's got everything else XD
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Old 12-09-2013, 06:39 PM   #19 
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Yes, I agree with Matt about overusing Kanaplex. In general, I prefer to only use it in non-dropsy cases as other antibiotics will be just as effective as long as the meds don't need to go internal. In this case, Noodle, since he is NOT showing dropsy signs, you may want to try Maracyn 2 as long as your pH is not above 7.2. Maracyn 2 (aka minocycline) also absorbs into the system readily but I do not recommend it for any case where the kidneys may be involved because it can further damage them.
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Old 12-13-2013, 02:24 PM   #20 
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Well he still has the red bits, but he's not acting any sicker, so I'm starting to think there's nothing wrong with him. He IS growing quite blue/black though. Just has his pink head. :3
THough he still has that black lump on his tail. >_o;
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