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Old 11-21-2010, 09:21 PM   #1 
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Talking yay for a new day!!!!!!!!!

My male betta fish thats the double tail that got beat up by the female is now chomping on the female!!!!!!! (u might think that cruel but i am breeding so thats the process). after the male getting beat up i separated them and put a superaggresive male and now when she see him she run away but shes ready to spawn with a belly 1/3 of an inch thick!
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Old 11-21-2010, 09:56 PM   #2 
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Like I said in your other thread which you never responded to letting your fish injure each other is not an ethical way to breed. Is it worth it to you if your female is seriously injured or even killed as long as you get a spawn?

There are other ways to get a spawn besides letting the fish get seriously injured. I would never be happy, much less want to tell people that my male had injured my female or vice versa.
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Old 11-21-2010, 10:41 PM   #3 
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Yeah it's never good to place aggressive fish together. Of course they'll be agressive. I know you're new to this but you might be exaggerating the agression in your fish, I know I did. After a few spawns you'll understand good agression VS bad agression. Bad agression is constant fighting, shredding, and attacking the body, and causing open wounds. Good aggression is a couple of nips, mostly the male ignoring the female, and him doing more flaring than attacking.

Remember just because she shredded your male dosen't mean you should have her beat up as revenge.....they are fighting fish and females can be just as bad or worse than males.
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Old 11-21-2010, 11:35 PM   #4 
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I totally agree with 1fish2fish and MrVampire. They're experienced breeders and they know what they are talking about. A good breeder is always concerned about the health and well-being of their fish.
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Old 11-21-2010, 11:48 PM   #5 
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Please stop letting your fish beat each other up! I've seen you post several threads about this, and it really bothers me... There is a better way to do it, so take their advice!

I feel really sorry for your fish :(
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Old 11-22-2010, 06:43 AM   #6 
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Sometimes there's another problem. With my fish, they never seem to pay much attention to eachother, and they just swim around like BFFs.
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Old 11-22-2010, 10:47 AM   #7 
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Sometimes there's another problem. With my fish, they never seem to pay much attention to eachother, and they just swim around like BFFs.
i had a pair do just that. they both ate together and stayed under the nest together but never spawned!
I switched things up with a slightly more aggressive female, and BAM, they spawned within an hour. but overall i just think that the male is a nice guy, bc even after spawning he didnt care that the female was right next to the bubble nest, but he was taking good care of the eggs though.

i guess this works both ways haha, two aggressive fish= no breed.
two non aggressive = no breed
got to get the right combo, but i agree that purposely gettin a female beat up is not good.
ime, that has only made the female have male phobia-making her never want to approach any male again.
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Old 11-22-2010, 11:38 AM   #8 
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Beat up fish aren't going to spawn any faster.
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Old 11-22-2010, 12:19 PM   #9 
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IME/IMO it doesn't matter what the aggression level of each fish is. It's all in how you approach the set up.

With aggressive ones use a bigger tank with more plants and leave the female in the jar longer. If the male is aggressive REVERSE ROLES and put the male in the jar. (Learned this from an IBC breeder).

With non-aggressive ones put them in a smaller tank with less plants so they don't loose each other. Don't jar the female but just throw them in at the same time.

Fish are not people. They don't have the mental capacity that people do. A healthy, well conditioned fish will want to breed with any fish of the opposite sex. There's no such thing as "he doesn't like her' or "she's scared of him". As long as you keep at it and tweak things that aren't working, eventually you will get a spawn.


I think one of the biggest problems is that many of us newbies get to impatient. After two days and no spawn we're gung-ho to go get a new pair. It's like someone in my betta group told me.. the most important thing you need for breeding bettas is truckloads full of patience.
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Old 11-22-2010, 02:47 PM   #10 
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IME/IMO it doesn't matter what the aggression level of each fish is. It's all in how you approach the set up.

With aggressive ones use a bigger tank with more plants and leave the female in the jar longer. If the male is aggressive REVERSE ROLES and put the male in the jar. (Learned this from an IBC breeder).

With non-aggressive ones put them in a smaller tank with less plants so they don't loose each other. Don't jar the female but just throw them in at the same time.

Fish are not people. They don't have the mental capacity that people do. A healthy, well conditioned fish will want to breed with any fish of the opposite sex. There's no such thing as "he doesn't like her' or "she's scared of him". As long as you keep at it and tweak things that aren't working, eventually you will get a spawn.


I think one of the biggest problems is that many of us newbies get to impatient. After two days and no spawn we're gung-ho to go get a new pair. It's like someone in my betta group told me.. the most important thing you need for breeding bettas is truckloads full of patience.
I totally agree with you on that one! With my last spawn, the pair was in the tank for 4 days before they spawned. By day 3 I was already going to put in another male in the tank, but then decided to just leave them alone for one more day. I came home on day 4 to find eggs in the nest. :)

I really think patience is one of the most important things to have when breeding bettas as well....
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