Originally Posted by Oldfishlady
Nitrate not nitrite.....when a tank is neglected...changes occur naturally and has to be controlled with regular water changes since its a closed system....the nitrate build up and due to the organics in the tank as they break down can cause the water to become more acidic lowering the pH....when a sudden changes is made with either of these....it can shock the system....this is one of the myths you hear about "A water change killed my fish" come from.....the water change didn't kill the fish per say...it was shock related from the sudden change in pH and nitrate with the water change.....
It can sometimes take 12-24h for the fish to show symptom and they will either get sick or die...if they survive the shock, often they will have a compromised immune response and you may have a secondary problem show up.
Sorry, I think you may have misunderstood.....you want to make 50% water changes with fresh dechlorinated water not old dirty water....
Epsom salt would be better to use in this case, if you want to try aquarium salt I would use 1tsp/gal....I would only treat while in the small QT, however, you may want to find something smaller to use so that you can float it in the heated tank to maintain a water temp of at least 76F...70F is really too low.
Tannins-come from Indian almond leaf you can find on-line or native naturally dried and fallen from the tree Oak leaf.
Good that he is eating...
Cloudy water in the new 5gal....could be bacterial, dusty gravel, new items not rinsed enough...etc.....I would make a 50% water change before you add the Betta back once he has recovered......unless you have other livestock in the tank like snails or shrimp....the live plants should start to take care of the water once they start to actively grow...but if the water is too cloudy it could hamper the light penetration for good plant growth...
Thank you very much for the reply. And yes he definitely started showing symptoms in that timeframe you said.
I will get epsom salt, not a problem. Tannins any luck at petco or petsmart so I can get it quicker than online?
He is the only live thing I have in the tank besides the 3 plants. I feel like I want to change the water 100% and rinse everything with hot water (plants in cool water though right?) and then start over... letting the plants and cycle the tank - then add that water slowly to his tank after he starts to heal/recover.
When redoing the 5G tank,
I am going to add:
Everything rinsed off thoroughly and all in hot water except plants (cool/warm water?).
- Water Conditioner
- Should I add the 1 tablespoon of AQ salt to the 5G without him in it?
- Should I add the API stress coat - says 5ml for 5gallon tank that it helps the biological filter faster?
Would any recommend anything else to add to the whole brand new tank?
The bio bag in the whisper filter, should I rinse that off in hot water or not do anything to it?
I am asking this important question about what to do with new tank so if god forbid something happens to my guy, I would get another Betta and don't want this happening ever again. I feel sick that I could have caused this
Specifically to "OldFishLady": With a neglected tank as you say with lower pH/higher acid... is that a typical cause of fin rot / discoloration or does fin rot cause discoloration?
And any idea what that looks to be on his top side that I circled in the OP.
I am very grateful for your replies.