Sorority Help!

[PhilipPhish]

I had to take out Cleo, she almost killed shoes and Annie. There are 3 in there now and they are quite content. Annie is the boss, though Beans can't seem to calm down enough to eat...

I put Cleo in my extra pickle jar, and she is quite fine. She is next to Philip and the sorority.

I'll have you know that Philip lived in a .5 gallon until just last march! Hes 5 years old and the biggest Betta I've ever seen!

Tigger and Nez are quite fine too. almost all the tanks are temporary until probably next year!

My girls are fine with there only being 3 of them. I bought the 4 for around $12 at petco. For a first sorority, they are doing quite fine!

The 4 fish in .5 and pickle jars are all small enough for it to work until next year, when I'll probably get one of those long bookshelf tanks and divide it up for Tigger, Nez, Dragon, and Cleo.

My mom also said shed help me breed Tigger and Cleo, just to test the waters and see if it goes well.

[PhilipPhish]

I plan on getting HM and CT girls to put in there as well.

My tank isn't cycled, but I can clean it just as well as my other tanks. We have a 75 gallon that we clean like 3 times a year! It has 2 pleco and an oscar, probably produce just as much waste as the girls do! They are all perfectly fine!

Doing things buy the books takes a lot of work, but we work around the book, skipping pages and doing things the way we see fit and humane!

[youlovegnats]

Before you buy anymore fish, I suggest that you upgrade your tanks.
.5 gallons is not a good home for any kind of fish.
Neither is a pickle jar... -__-

[PhilipPhish]

Mkay, whatever.... Apparently the simple things aren't good enough for everyone.

[PhilipPhish]

My fish are just fine where they are, I can do what I please. Playing by the books isn't fun. There is a breeder who keeps all their fish in pickle jars and they are pretty successful!

I'm going to stop talking now and I'm dropping it.

I asked fro sorority help, I got it. Take Cleo out. Its done. Annie, Shoes, and Beans are just fine as well as the rest of them. I'll upgrade my tanks when I see suitable, I'll add more girls to the sorority.
My mom and I plan on breeding Tigger and Cleo next year. I'll probably keep some of the girls and they will be in the sorority.

Thank you for your help guys.

[1fish2fish]

What the point in asking for help if you think you've got all the answers?

Good luck with your fish. For the sake of those girls I hope none of them decide to kill each other.... Experience has taught me that in volatile set ups like yours its only a matter of time.

[PhilipPhish]

I don't have all the answers... thats why I ask questions. but its done. Cleos in a jar, and the other 3 are doing fine!

[youlovegnats]

We aren't bashing you, calm down. The members on here are just trying to help your fish.
"Playing by the books isn't fun" ? The books have hard evidence that a .5 gal minimizes the lifespan of fish. And the reason why the breeder keeps them in pickle jars is because those fish are breeding stock, not pets...
And what do you mean by "simple things"? Sure a pickle jar may be simple, but it's high maintenance! You should be doing water changes on every tank you have every other day (minus the sorority tank).

Maybe in a year you might have enough insight to breed, but before then, please take care of your current fish. I've seen far too many people on this site coming up and saying "blah blah blah my fish are fine and they live in .25 gallons and I never change their water and they have been alive for years blah blah!"
It just gets annoying that everyone on here is nothing but helpful to you and you go and say you don't wanna "play by the books" because it's "boring"? Please...

[kathstew]

Originally Posted by 1fish2fish

What the point in asking for help if you think you've got all the answers?

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There's no point asking for help if you aren't doing things right to begin with in the first place.
If you think you've got all the answers fine. Don't ask for help.

Edit: For god's sake don't breed. I hope nobody helps you. I really do, because honestly, I don't think you deserve help. This is irresponsible behaviour on your part.

No one will help you if you purposely don't things because its "boring". Keeping a betta fish in a PICKLE JAR is like locking you into a tiny bathroom, and expecting you to live fine. Its cruel and INHUMANE. ITS WRONG. Whatever.

[PhilipPhish]

Mkay.

I just want to put it out there:

I clean all my fish tanks every other day, if not, every 2 days.

The sorority is new. I'll be doing water changes on it twice a week, and every month, I'll take the girls out and clean it.

My mom said that she would be willing to help me try it out. It isn't a guaranteed breeding thing, we are simply trying it out. I'll keep some of the girls fro the sorority and if my mom decides breeding tanks to much, we will convert the 20 gallon into a divided tank fro Tigger, Nez, and Cleo.

My parents have owned fish for the past 12 years. We upgrade tanks as needed.We've gone through 3-4 tanks for the oscars and plecos.

Just so its out there. Not trying to be all "My way is better. I know so much about bettas"

I was kind of like what you described a few years ago gnats.
But after we upgraded Philips tank I got more educated and started making plans for my fish.

I have a rough manner about me, and it probably irritates the crap outta people, sorry if it does. I'll try to tone it down.

Sorry if I offended anyone.