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Old 01-03-2012, 05:13 PM   #411 
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No, it's a double tail. Your fish is called a veil tail double tail, which is just two veils. It's a type of double tail. He's very pretty :)
Not completely true. Yes, he is a VTDT mix......but that combination creates a Lyre tail. (Which is still a Doubletail), but in a different form.

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Old 01-03-2012, 05:15 PM   #412 
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The IBC does not recognize "Lyre tail"... that is a double tail in my eyes.
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Old 01-03-2012, 05:38 PM   #413 
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Then why not just say double tail? Just because the lobes don't touch doesn't make it a different tail type. I see no difference in the pictures you posted. VTDT will have more separation because they have fewer ray branching than say, HMDT. That's the only reason why there are differences in the space between the lobes.
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Old 01-03-2012, 05:47 PM   #414 
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lyretails aren't..... made.... in bettas. :T other types of fish, yeah, but never bettas. you'd have to have the tips of the outer side of the tail extended, while the inner rays are shorter. like in this fish:


DTVT's tails aren't full enough to touch, so they look different than other DTs. they're still DTs, though. nothing special about them, really. :T
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Old 01-03-2012, 05:50 PM   #415 
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See the similarity between what Luimeril posted and this?



Now any of the doubletails posted don't look like that. They're just double tails.
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Old 01-03-2012, 05:58 PM   #416 
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+1 for picture of a lyre XD
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Old 01-03-2012, 06:04 PM   #417 
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Old 01-03-2012, 06:12 PM   #418 
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lyretails aren't..... made.... in bettas. :T other types of fish, yeah, but never bettas. you'd have to have the tips of the outer side of the tail extended, while the inner rays are shorter. like in this fish:


DTVT's tails aren't full enough to touch, so they look different than other DTs. they're still DTs, though. nothing special about them, really. :T
betta talk, talks about lyretails here is a single tail lyre:

here's the link:
http://www.bettatalk.com/betta_finnage.htm
i know this is about a double lyre, i think some in the forum actually has one, for got the name
a double lyre will look a bit like this:

and veil doubles and lyre are not the same (well in my opinion) I COULD BE WRONG

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Old 01-03-2012, 06:40 PM   #419 
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Nope.. first one is either deformed or IMO tail bitten. The owner of that site says those are someone else's fish so she really doesn't know if that is a natural tail..and also if it doesn't breed true its not a true tail type.

The second one is a bad double tail but a double tail none the less. One lobe is smaller than the other but that's the sum of it.
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Old 01-03-2012, 07:20 PM   #420 
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rofl - from betta pixels to defining doubletail ..
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