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Old 02-11-2012, 07:45 PM   #11 
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What is the PH of your water? and hardness? Ours is 8.2 for PH and we cannot keep snails alive here. LFS doesn't even bring them in cause they die on her too. Maybe something to do with it?
the issue would have something to do with metal content in the tap, jakie. Have you checked with local watr company regarding this?

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I'll have to check again....but my ph is usually 5.8-7.0 max........it does seem to fluctuate here on Long Island. But even then I have a betta fish in the tank and they are doing great.....and the bigger snails are do fine as well. They are eating, getting bigger, and not one has croaked on me. Its only the babies from the same batch that I bought......pssible genetic defect or something?
what test kit was used? Were the shells not eroded at all? Your pH is too acidoc for the shells to be maintained properly.

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Sorry to butt in on someone else's thread but I was wondering if I could bug you snail experts an issue I have.

I have a mystery/apple snail, black (not that that should matter) it's injured (I think), his shell is cracked, it has been since I got him, but he's still been a happy piggy snail. But I think Monday I found him not moving. I pulled him out and cupped him with a bit of algae wafer, still didn't move, at all. He doesn't stink, he acts dead, he plays dead. I was about to throw him out cause I thought he was dead, had him in a ziploc baggie with a bit of water, and I see the mouth poking out. He's alive.

Is there anything I can do for him (fairly sure its a him), and what would be the best course of action for treatment. He was in my 33 gal, I think the PH is 6.8 ish, live plants, 0 ammonia, I think the nitrites ates? were about 10. (not sure if the info was helpful).
Your pH will not allow his shell to recover. Start increasing it beyond 7.6 in a separate tank and supplement him with calcium.enriched fiod such as kale and seaweeds. Then add caltrate or tums in his tank 2-3x a week.
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the issue would have something to do with metal content in the tap, jakie. Have you checked with local watr company regarding this?


what test kit was used? Were the shells not eroded at all? Your pH is too acidoc for the shells to be maintained properly.


Your pH will not allow his shell to recover. Start increasing it beyond 7.6 in a separate tank and supplement him with calcium.enriched fiod such as kale and seaweeds. Then add caltrate or tums in his tank 2-3x a week.

Wait I am confused I was told 6.5-7.5 ph is the safe route for the snails. Mine falls between 5.8 and 7.0 but I try to maintain it at 7.0. As for the shell erosion, the babies had perfect shells and the biger ones I bought at petland I bought since they were damaged. I kind of have a rescue thing going on for snails and betta's.
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Old 02-11-2012, 09:32 PM   #13 
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Who told you that? Advice is mediocre. At that range, pH is very acidic and can erode the shells. PH should.not fall below 7.6 to minimize shell.erosions.
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Old 02-12-2012, 12:37 AM   #14 
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rckstr1253, I don't know your situation, so I'm not necessarily aiming this at you. But your comment "bought at petland I bought since they were damaged" (italics mine) made me think of this... So not aimed at you, but as a general statement...

If any one wants to rescue a critter from a pet store, don't pay for it. By paying for it, you're feeding money into the system that allows them to produce even more critters that will be treated equally as badly. I mean, for example, for every betta you purchase in a filthy cup amongst dead bettas, they'll just ship in another betta in a filthy cup to take its place. Feeding money into this situation just perpetuates the cycle! I know its hard to pass up a suffering creature, but trust me- that one creature may have to suffer, and that's absolutely terrible, BUT you'll save other creatures from suffering. The cycle will never stop until we stop feeding it!

This goes for aquatic creatures, or pet store/puppy mill puppies and kitties, or reptiles, or pocket pets, or exotics, or birds or whatever. Getting your creatures for real rescues would be the best option. The next best option is getting them from breeders that actually care about the lives they bring into this world.

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Old 02-12-2012, 01:00 AM   #15 
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rckstr1253, I don't know your situation, so I'm not necessarily aiming this at you. But your comment "bought at petland I bought since they were damaged" (italics mine) made me think of this... So not aimed at you, but as a general statement...

If any one wants to rescue a critter from a pet store, don't pay for it. By paying for it, you're feeding money into the system that allows them to produce even more critters that will be treated equally as badly. I mean, for example, for every betta you purchase in a filthy cup amongst dead bettas, they'll just ship in another betta in a filthy cup to take its place. Feeding money into this situation just perpetuates the cycle! I know its hard to pass up a suffering creature, but trust me- that one creature may have to suffer, and that's absolutely terrible, BUT you'll save other creatures from suffering. The cycle will never stop until we stop feeding it!

This goes for aquatic creatures, or pet store/puppy mill puppies and kitties, or reptiles, or pocket pets, or exotics, or birds or whatever. Getting your creatures for real rescues would be the best option. The next best option is getting them from breeders that actually care about the lives they bring into this world.
EXACTLY..... Well said, I cant tell you how many times I hear people say" I was at Wal-Mart and felt sorry for the dieing Betta so I rescued him" Your not rescuing, your putting more fish in harm by keeping the Wal-Mart fish dept. open. These places sell sick dieing animals because WE create a market for them.

OOOOhhh... and I'm sorry to hear about your snails
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Who told you that? Advice is mediocre. At that range, pH is very acidic and can erode the shells. PH should.not fall below 7.6 to minimize shell.erosions.
I was told from a gentleman who cares for snails at Petland and always has their tanks nice and clean(not the same petland where I bought the already damaged shell snails I bought). Most of my snails have a smooth shell and I do grind up egg shells into a powder to throw into the tank as a calcium supplement. Since you know a lot about snails, what would you recommend to get the pitted shells all nice and smooth and remove the algae on the shells? All info is appreciated as I love these guys and do want to nurse them back to complete 100% if I can.

Thanks again for the info. As for the last baby snail, I moved him into another tank I had set up for a betta but he is the only one in it. He is moving around and eating so I think I am in the clear right now.

On another note, one of my albino snails and blue mystery snails is mating so if I have any babies, does anyone on here want to buy a few. I am thinking charging 50 cents to a $1.00 for each one + shipping.

Thanks!
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Snail are very sensitive to any copper especially in medications, that may be part of the problem.
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Old 02-13-2012, 05:52 AM   #18 
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I was told from a gentleman who cares for snails at Petland and always has their tanks nice and clean(not the same petland where I bought the already damaged shell snails I bought). Most of my snails have a smooth shell and I do grind up egg shells into a powder to throw into the tank as a calcium supplement. Since you know a lot about snails, what would you recommend to get the pitted shells all nice and smooth and remove the algae on the shells? All info is appreciated as I love these guys and do want to nurse them back to complete 100% if I can.

Thanks again for the info. As for the last baby snail, I moved him into another tank I had set up for a betta but he is the only one in it. He is moving around and eating so I think I am in the clear right now.

On another note, one of my albino snails and blue mystery snails is mating so if I have any babies, does anyone on here want to buy a few. I am thinking charging 50 cents to a $1.00 for each one + shipping.

Thanks!
Your albino snail is considered ivory.

Shell.erosion around the tip of their butt cannot be repaired. For fracture around the mantle, place the snail in tank woth temp no.more than 76 degreea Fahrenheit and feed woth calcium supplements. The slow shell growth will give time for shell to thickwn itself. Fast growing snails have dangerously brittle shells which can easily crack.
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Lupin is a snail expert as well as a goldfish expert so you're getting some great advice here.
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Old 02-20-2012, 02:07 PM   #20 
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Your albino snail is considered ivory.

Shell.erosion around the tip of their butt cannot be repaired. For fracture around the mantle, place the snail in tank woth temp no.more than 76 degreea Fahrenheit and feed woth calcium supplements. The slow shell growth will give time for shell to thickwn itself. Fast growing snails have dangerously brittle shells which can easily crack.
Is it? I thought Ivory snails were snails with a white foot and white shell? These have a whitish/pink foot with brown striped shell.

Well the erosion is like pit marks where the shell comes to a point. I am in the process of setting up a fluval ebi tank that will be specifically designated for plants and snails. How many snails can I keep in this 8 gallon tank if I do 2 water changes a week? I will have 2 filters running as well.
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