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Old 02-22-2012, 11:11 AM   #1 
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Betta tail "surgery"??

So this morning, Ludendorff is swimming as best he can. Last few days he's been off his hammock trying to swim. His problem is that his tail doesn't fan out like it should thereby creating a melted tail which he struggles to turn around. It passed my mind that if I could just cut off the edge of the tail it would grow back normally!!! So I searched it, IN A HYPOTHETICAL WAY NOT BECAUSE I WAS GOING TO TRY IT!! And this is what I found. :
http://www.bettatalk.com/answer30.htm

What do you guys think about this? This site was one I came across when I first got Lakitu. It told me keeping him in an unheated small bowl was fine. They're more leniant on betta keeping standards. SO when I seen this I was very sceptical because at the end it admits that the fish will be stressed for a day and "it's normal"...
I'm also lookin for solutions to battle the ends of Ludey's tail :) Thanks
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Old 02-22-2012, 11:18 AM   #2 
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Ten to one, if they give you crappy care advice you shouldn't listen. I say no way and try treating it. Is it fin rot?
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Old 02-22-2012, 12:01 PM   #3 
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Well I was just sort of surprised that such a risky "surgery" would be available so readily online like this, I wonder how many betta died as a result! I mean, I'm responsible enough to see this and not try it (just wanted people here to see it).
Yes, I assume Ludey's tail is rot. The 2 hangy fins are curled and he cannot even flare them, his top fin cannot flare, his bottom one can kind of flare but the ends are melted/clumped together preventing a full flare. He also struggles to turn ariund in water.
Treatment for him at this point, clean water, IAL (actually I'm on my last one, waiting on my mail order to come), feeding good food (he'll only eat Omega One pellets and Attisons Pro pellets) and waiting for him to come around!
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Old 02-22-2012, 12:49 PM   #4 
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I have heard of this, I also know at least one breeder on this site has.

The issue is it's dangerous. And not something a general hobbyists have the skill, tools, and knowledge to be able to do this.

I know I wish I could do this for two of mine. But I know this is something outside of my capabilities.

EDIT: Not quite what I was thinking posted before reading. I had heard of removing actual fin or tail with a sharp instrument. Why I am so absolutely wary of this.

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Old 02-22-2012, 01:15 PM   #5 
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It is actually pretty common procedure to preform, however, I don't recommend people to try this unless you really know what you are doing and understand the risks involved.
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Old 02-22-2012, 01:30 PM   #6 
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Well I was just sort of surprised that such a risky "surgery" would be available so readily online like this, I wonder how many betta died as a result! I mean, I'm responsible enough to see this and not try it (just wanted people here to see it).
Yes, I assume Ludey's tail is rot. The 2 hangy fins are curled and he cannot even flare them, his top fin cannot flare, his bottom one can kind of flare but the ends are melted/clumped together preventing a full flare. He also struggles to turn ariund in water.
Treatment for him at this point, clean water, IAL (actually I'm on my last one, waiting on my mail order to come), feeding good food (he'll only eat Omega One pellets and Attisons Pro pellets) and waiting for him to come around!
This was good information to get out there. Good luck with his healing. Fin rot can be a pain sometimes. I bought one of my veil tails 6 months or so ago with fin rot and he is still having issues with his dorsel. I think his is permanent. It hasn't worsened. But anyways, good luck.

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Old 02-22-2012, 04:39 PM   #7 
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I have heard that breeders cut of tails that are infected and I suspect that one of the girls I got from walmart had her tail chopped off before being shipped out. Her tail fin was GONE and it looked like someone cut it off.
It did grow back and looked almost normal but I really don't think we should be chopping off betta fins.
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Old 02-22-2012, 09:36 PM   #8 
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That's what I mean. With this How-To guide so readily available anyone can try it, thinking they have the know how. I mean it's something I was curious enough to look up bc the thought popped into my head but to see that people actually do it is kind of scary. :/ I wouldn't risk it. I just wouldn't. Like how do you even determine if the tail should be cut off!?? Crazy.
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Old 02-22-2012, 11:15 PM   #9 
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I seen this the other day and told a distant friend about it. She told me a few years ago she had a Betta with chronic fin rot. She found a vet that would take fish about three hours away. She explained to the vet what was happening with her Betta. She could slow it down with meds but it kept making rounds in her fins and fought it for 5 months. The vet scheduled her an appointment and she took the fish. The vet charged her for an office visit and did this procedure right in front of her on moist paper towels. So she wouldn't have to drive back out again he actually showed her how to do it, explained it very thoroughly to her, and told her to practice the day before securing the fish in the paper towel and spreading the fin. She went home and did a treatment 2 weeks later and the chronic fin rot went away.

So while it is risky I wouldn't say that it is bad that it is out there. People just need to know what they are comfortable with and capable of doing. I'm not suggesting every time a fish gets fin rot we take them and do tail surgery, but if you have a chronic case your hand is almost forced. I mean what quality of life is the Betta going to have with shredded rotting fins. Sure it is a last resort procedure in my opinion, but sometimes you need a last resort to change the situation in life and it's usually not the most pleasant or easy thing to do.
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