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#1 ·
One question with frankie my snail.
What is that pad under his shell? Is he hurt?

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I really hope that tank is at least ten gallons... A betta, mystery snail, and ADF are no good for anything smaller. Please, read the link in my signature, it will tell you everything that you need to know about ADF care, and ask me if you have any other questions.
 
#7 ·
Australia has really strict quarantine regulations - new species aren't allowed in in case people release them and they overpopulate the wild or threaten native species. Hamsters are illegal too, for the same reasons. :(

Is it true that ADFs are social and should be kept in pairs/groups? Or is that urban myth?
 
#10 ·
To the OP, you never answered my question...

To bombalurina, adfs can be kept in as many or ad few as you like. Much like some schooling fish, they are simply more bold in numbers. But that also depends on the individual. I have kept single frogs that tended to be bolder alone and hide when in groups.
 
#12 · (Edited by Moderator)
That is horribly overstocked! Not to mention cruel! An Adf needs at the bare minimum THREE gallons to itself, betta needs minimum of TWO gallons, and mystery snails are POOP MACHINES and should not be kept in a 2.5 because they will foul the water in hours... With the stocking choices you have made, you will need to do a 100% water change every day to keep the water healthy for the inhabitants, and that is t even factoring in the swimming space required. You really should do your research before stocking a tank that small...


Any member on this site will tell you the same. A 2.5 gallon tank is not really suitable for anything but a single betta... And that's it. Period.
 
#14 ·
It's filtered and I do happen to do a lot of water changes thanks :) I don't need a lecture and I will upgrade as soon as I have the money :)
 
#20 ·
You don't think I already felt crappy about it? I did!
But I found the fact that my poor second Betta was in a HALF GALLON more pressing than the 2.5g the frog had.
So I bought all the stuff for jaws today so he could have a beautiful 3g home too.

And no I found out VERY quickly that's pet stores don't know their butts from the hole in the ground.
 
#16 ·
You don't have to cap for me.
I understand it was a mistake, I was taking petsmarts advice.
I hopefully soon will be able to have a ten gallon or at least five then ten
 
#18 ·
Thank you.
I was feeling attacked and I knew I messed it up already. I didn't need to be attacked because of it
I trusted petsmart to know and so I did what they said was ok.
I think the filter helps with the snail poop but I do change the water a lot also.
 
#22 · (Edited)
Personally i think a betta in a half gallon home, with proper water changes, to be infinitely more humane than an over crowded 2.5... But whatever. Clearly i am in the wrong here for trying to inform someone on the proper care of an animal that isnt focused on in this website. Pardon me.

I just want to say, that if you had read my thread on proper care of ADFs, then you would have been more pressed to upgrade the overstocked tank, rather than the perfectly adequate half gallon. But that is just my opinion, and isnt that what the internet is about? Everyone has their own opinion... Mine just happens to be backed by veterinarians and scientists... But whatever.


Edit: Oh! And be careful of that betta hammock... users here have experienced betta deaths from the wires in them... If you want i can teach you how to make a much safer one from plastic craft mesh...
 
#27 ·
Personally i think a betta in a half gallon home, with proper water changes, to be infinitely more humane than an over crowded 2.5... But whatever. Clearly i am in the wrong here for trying to inform someone on the proper care of an animal that isnt focused on in this website. Pardon me.

I just want to say, that if you had read my thread on proper care of ADFs, then you would have been more pressed to upgrade the overstocked tank, rather than the perfectly adequate half gallon. But that is just my opinion, and isnt that what the internet is about? Everyone has their own opinion... Mine just happens to be backed by veterinarians and scientists... But whatever.
Nobody was attacking you for wanting to give out the correct care information, Gizmo - that's admirable. But you don't need to get so angry at people. I'm sure the OP is doing the best she can in her circumstances, with the information she had at the time. She has already stated that she will upgrade as soon as is possible, and I'm sure that she will give her frog the best of care until then.

Remember how confusing it can be for people just starting out on the hobby to be presented with so much information, often conflicting, from petshops and the internet.
 
#23 ·
Ahaha. Okay what's is it then?? Cuz everyone says 1/2 g is horrendous and now you're saying it's not.
What the heck?
And you saying everyone has their opinions but oh by the way mine is scientific completely blows off other people.
So call me cruel and evil and whatever you want but I read the stuff. Ok. And you're not a specialist.
Everything but my soo godawfully over stocked death tank is perfect for the frog.
I'll find help with my hammock elsewhere
 
#24 · (Edited)
I never said it was ideal... I said, if you want to be specific, that it was 'more humane' and 'adequate'... Bettas should be housed in larger tanks, yes, but they are more hardy than ADFs and can tolerate, and sometimes even benefit from, smaller homes. And ADF will not show illness until it is too late to treat for the most part, and so are more fragile, and require more informed care. That is all i am saying here. I know what i am talking about, and if you read the beginning of the forum in my sig, then you would see that i got a lot of my information from webistes written by vets and scientists, everything else i know is from years of personal experience.



But anyway, i am done here, clearly you can't be arsed to listen to my advise... Good luck with your upgrade, and here is hoping your fish dont get sick before then.
 
#29 ·
But anyway, i am done here, clearly you can't be arsed to listen to my advise... Good luck with your upgrade, and here is hoping your fish dont get sick before then.
Clearly you cannot have rnough respect to see that I am trying.
You're too bullheaded ad stubborn about what you think that you can't understand that I feel like crap about it anyways and you keep telling me how crappy I am.
I read the stuff and I'm doing everything I can

Have a little more respect and understanding.
 
#25 ·
Ill let you know when my horrible death tank kills him
Then you can say I told you so.
For now I saving up.
And goodbye.
 
#30 ·
I tried to make this a happy and cute introduction to my other pets and this is what you take it too.
I'll just delete it.
 
#31 ·
Like i said, i am done. And i am unsubscribing from this thread.

I tried to help, and was reacted to immaturely. I never attacked the op, and if my tone came across harsh i apologise, but it is rather difficult to convey tone with just letters over the internet. I am simply passionate about an animal i have spent a great many years caring for, and want to help others give them the proper care. Ive had ADFs longer than i ever thought about owning bettas, so i know a thing or two.
 
#33 ·
@ Gizmo,

Jennybug realizes that she doesn't have the ideal setup in that 2.5 gallon tank and is going to upgrade. The argument should have ended there. Your advice was taken and noted.
And yes, it's hard to convey in type what you're trying to say but you were a little harsh in your posts.

@ Jennybug,

You've already learned how some chain store employees are not too well informed as most of us had to learn when we first started tanks. Kudos to you for saving up to upgrade to what's best for your fish and frog. Keep up with those water changes in the meantime.
 
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