okay, sparta is my 1 fry from my last spawn the red HMxVT spawn from November,22(?), 2011 and i have one fry left. 4 days ago he/she turned 3 months, but he/she is wayy under size :lol: am starting to worry, i do every 2nd day changes (should i make it daily? :|) and it is actually %100 percent changes, and he/she lives in i don't even think it is a gallon tank :-? and i feed him/her HBH baby bites, since i have i can't hatch BBS and i don't have money to buy a culture of what evers. and his size is around this:
(smaller i think) and he/she has no coloration either, he only has red tinted eye's and that's it. if anyone knows another way i would appreciate it
I've had some take a long time to grow. Since you can't buy any cultures, try smashing betta pellets and see if he can eat them. My fry that hatched in December are eating crushed betta pro pellets.
If the fry wasn't given the right nutrition/care from early on, it will probably take a long time to rectify.
I have 12 or so 4-5 month old Betta albimarginata fry that received hardly any proper nutrition and care, and only now with lots of daily feeding and water changes am I seeing improvements in growth rates.
Likewise, some recent fry that are 2-3 weeks old and have received proper nutrition and care since I separated them into a grow-out, are nearly as big as some of those 4-5 month old ones.
Can I ask how come you can't hatch BBS? All I use is a 2L soft drink bottle, warm, de-chlorinated water, table salt and an air stone. It's fairly simple and the only real pain is that you need to do it regularly.
oh okay, i'll try it but ....uh my pellets are pretty big though :lol: there a half the size of a rice grain, the reason i can't hatch BBS because some reason they either don't hatch or the die the next day and my dad sometimes puts them on the window because he dosen't like it so i find it on my window freezing cold (it's winter here)
Ah, I keep mine in a plastic tub filled with water and with the cheapest heater I could find chucked in.
If Sparta is taking the pellets and they have enough nutrients for fry (you really need a high-protein food to put on size), I say just give it some time.
Your tank and wc schedule sounds adequate.
If you have Frozen BW, cut them down to size to feed him.
You can use 2 spoons to crush your pellets or sterilize a small rock and grind it with that.
I used a penny when my Petco "baby betta" was still too small for the regular size New Life Spectrum betta pellets. I didn't have any issues with it, just make sure it's a clean coin.
Wow that's cold.
Will try some frozen bbs,daphia or tubflix worm.
Idk what size is your fry but if the frozen food is a bit to big.
Chop it down.
There a lot of culture
Not many people use this but it also work.
Get some clean worm from a bait fish store
Culture them.
Get none toxic soil base/potting soil bedding
i don't have a thermometer no more either and my heater can't make heat no more (it was like that for awhile), i have my radiator on though and his/her light collect lot's of heat and keeps him/her warm
W/out knowing the temp.
Is like raising the fish blind.
The temp play a big role.
Anything below 75 will stump the growth
Even with a good diet
How big is the tank
CFB: as you read i have no money there is no way i could got another thing unless my parents think it is urgent and they don't have money to spend really, and they think buying a heater isn't really important right now. and am pretty busy on thinking what to feed sparta next and am worried about his bottom fin, as you can see am in stress (personal things too)
and also i know what you mean, i know i need a heater and stuff. and the tank is around a half a gallon or so. sorry if i sounded rude, i didn't attempt to
I know how u feel.
Use to be young n living under my parents roof.
But u can work around it.
If your breeding
Just learn how to raise them up quick with number(150+ to selling size in 4 month)
Choose when to breed(end of spring)
Then try to sell everything at a cheap price(.60-1.50)/trade
Will Keep one or two pair(hold for next season)
With the money u save and trade for fish equipment
U will be set for the next breeding season
Start small
Sad to say but fighter sell a lot easier
I agree with Curly. You really have to start small and progress to bigger things when breeding such things as bettas.
@Curlyfatbottom: Is this true? Why are they so easy to sell? I honestly don't think I would like to support this though. It is sad, but we have to understand that this is part of another countries cultures.
Yes
For the blood sport.
Younger kid buy them since there cheap.
Easier to take care of.
Plus if you can produce a good line.
The male will have a lock price
From 20-50 each for all the male(10-150 male in each batch)
Female usually cull or chop up.
Since most breeder believe the female carry the good gene
They rather kill then sell
Even when people are will to pay top dollor for them
You have no larger tank like a 20 gallon that could be used for grow out? What if he/she had hundreds of siblings? I've said it before and I'll say it again: you MUST have ALL the proper equipment BEFORE you spawn your fish. Yes spawning and breeding is fun and tempting but without self control and patience this happens.
Trying not to sound rude. But we have all been in this situation before.
But did It get sold.
Don't matter what price u put on the fish.
All it matter is it proven or does it breed true.
Anything over 100 for a pair is over price to me
To me this fish is not worth $150 PLUS import fees. In fact his fins are not very good and he is an obvious X-factor fish. This fish would make me go broke and ruin my line. This fish is worth $5 if that.
To a novice $150 means it's a good fish and worth buying and breeding.
It's a shame that a lot of his fish have nice or unusual colouring, but that the quality of the fins and the body just isn't there.
I also think a lot of HMs don't have the substance through the body to carry all that finnage correctly so then they go around looking like they're sinking half the time.
Also, is there some way you could convince your parents to purchase a heater for your fry tank? Constant temperature fluctuations are bad enough to adults, let alone fry.
Do you have another tank you could put Sparta's in so that at least the temperature will be stabilised?
It's a shame that a lot of his fish have nice or unusual colouring, but that the quality of the fins and the body just isn't there.
I also think a lot of HMs don't have the substance through the body to carry all that finnage correctly so then they go around looking like they're sinking half the time.
Exactly. That's I breed HMPK to HM. The thick body of the HMPK helps them carry fins and the HMPK genes shorten and strengthen the long fins to make them easier to carry.
PS: That AB fish has beautiful colour, but his anal fin is definitely way too long, thats a huge issue for me, that drives me crazy lol. I definitely wouldnt pay that much.
That fish have a nice color to it.
But lack of a clean edge.
With a few generation cross to hmdt will improve the edging of the fish.
Hmpk won't really improve him since hmpk tend to throw long anal fin
More unwanted fish
With a weak dorso fin
Yes hmpk help with extend ray n fatting the tail base with a thicker body
Bottom line U must test and error to find the right combination for a hm
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