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Old Today, 11:29 AM   #22571 
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The disconnect people have between fish and other animals can be quite frustrating at times. This weekend we had a family wedding, and I discovered a family member about my age living in London has a Betta. I was like 'Yay! Let's talk fish!' and then discovered she kept it in an unheated 2 litre bowl. Not only that, but she then proceeded to tell me that it was cruel that I kept my cats indoors because they couldn't 'explore'... even though I've discussed this with vets and I've not met a single one yet who hasn't said that indoor cats live healthier, longer lives. One even told me that around 90% of his unplanned cat visits are due to something that has happened outside... cars, eating dangerous plants/slug pellets/chemicals, getting locked up in garages, etc etc. Our cats are happy and healthy, they have tons of play and climbing stuff, get exercised twice a day, are incredibly sociable, have an indoor cat-specialised diet + regular cat grass, and with the way the traffic is outside our flat I wouldn't dream of letting them out. I nearly killed a cat recently when it ran out in front of my car on a busy road... it actually bounced off and scattered away with a limp (I was in tears because I stopped the car and couldn't find it)... but it made me so glad my cats won't ever risk that. It just frustrated me to no end that she could sit and lecture me on my cats when she's keeping her fish with no thought to its needs whatsoever!
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I've never seen someone with conjunctivitis with an eyepatch. Let your eye air out! Just wash your hands when you touch it, you'll be okay :)
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The disconnect people have between fish and other animals can be quite frustrating at times. This weekend we had a family wedding, and I discovered a family member about my age living in London has a Betta. I was like 'Yay! Let's talk fish!' and then discovered she kept it in an unheated 2 litre bowl. Not only that, but she then proceeded to tell me that it was cruel that I kept my cats indoors because they couldn't 'explore'... even though I've discussed this with vets and I've not met a single one yet who hasn't said that indoor cats live healthier, longer lives. One even told me that around 90% of his unplanned cat visits are due to something that has happened outside... cars, eating dangerous plants/slug pellets/chemicals, getting locked up in garages, etc etc. Our cats are happy and healthy, they have tons of play and climbing stuff, get exercised twice a day, are incredibly sociable, have an indoor cat-specialised diet + regular cat grass, and with the way the traffic is outside our flat I wouldn't dream of letting them out. I nearly killed a cat recently when it ran out in front of my car on a busy road... it actually bounced off and scattered away with a limp (I was in tears because I stopped the car and couldn't find it)... but it made me so glad my cats won't ever risk that. It just frustrated me to no end that she could sit and lecture me on my cats when she's keeping her fish with no thought to its needs whatsoever!
Outdoor cat people frustrate me. We have a huge feral cat overpopulation where I live and outdoor cats, especially ones that have not been spayed/neutered, add to the problem. All of my friends with outdoor cats have problems and I'm just like.... nope, my cats are inside. And because we are in Florida - of all places - many homes/apartments have screened patios already. Cats love them. Not sure why people don't take advantage of that.

I always offer, like... "If you would be interested in setting up a long-term home for your Betta so he can be happier and healthier, let me know! I may have some spare parts lying around you can use for your aquarium."

sometimes it helps people take me more seriously, when I'm that invested in a fish's care.

Family wedding are a great place for trouble lol
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Old Today, 12:49 PM   #22574 
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Family wedding are a great place for trouble lol
Aren't they just? Oh, I forgot to mention one other danger to outdoor cats... cat fights! We have this huge ginger boy whose territory is clearly surrounding our flat. My cats just peer down at him from the window sill, completely unruffled by his antics, but I know he'd duff them up if I let them out. Both of our cats have had 'the snip' since they're boys and otherwise I would have trouble keeping them in, plus it's just responsible pet ownership, but they've not shown the slightest inclination to want to go outdoors, beyond looking at birds out the window.

We're hoping to get a mortgage and a house next year, and I can't wait to build a 'catio' for the cats to enjoy a bit of nature. I'm going to make our back garden a wildflower garden to attract butterflies, bees, hedgehogs, birds etc, and then give my cats lots of snugs and shelves in their catio so they can just relax and watch the wildlife :)

Ooh, also in Florida you have some serious beasties to watch out for, don't you? We went on holiday there once and there were snakes beyond the patio! No way would I let my cats out.

I didn't think of that. I just let it lie, but next time I will try this tactic. It's my first experience of meeting someone keeping a Betta in what I believe to be inadequate conditions, so I wasn't really sure how to react. Pet stores I can do, but relatives? Slightly more awkward!

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yeah the eyepatch is bad for pink eye, it creates a moist environment where bacteria can flourish, instead of it airing out.
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Its horribly uncomfortable anyway. I rubbed my eye then thoroughly rubbed down things she uses by her face everyday. Lets see her insult me again when shes got it. Stupid eye patch. I got crap about being a pirate because of it
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Aren't they just? Oh, I forgot to mention one other danger to outdoor cats... cat fights! We have this huge ginger boy whose territory is clearly surrounding our flat. My cats just peer down at him from the window sill, completely unruffled by his antics, but I know he'd duff them up if I let them out. Both of our cats have had 'the snip' since they're boys and otherwise I would have trouble keeping them in, plus it's just responsible pet ownership, but they've not shown the slightest inclination to want to go outdoors, beyond looking at birds out the window.

We're hoping to get a mortgage and a house next year, and I can't wait to build a 'catio' for the cats to enjoy a bit of nature. I'm going to make our back garden a wildflower garden to attract butterflies, bees, hedgehogs, birds etc, and then give my cats lots of snugs and shelves in their catio so they can just relax and watch the wildlife :)

Ooh, also in Florida you have some serious beasties to watch out for, don't you? We went on holiday there once and there were snakes beyond the patio! No way would I let my cats out.

I didn't think of that. I just let it lie, but next time I will try this tactic. It's my first experience of meeting someone keeping a Betta in what I believe to be inadequate conditions, so I wasn't really sure how to react. Pet stores I can do, but relatives? Slightly more awkward!
Sounds like you will spoil both your cat and your garden wildlife! I love that you have hedgehogs in your back yard over there.

Yeah, we have lot of snakes and predatory birds. Sometimes other mammals that will eat cats/dogs. Gators, too.

It is more difficult with people you don't want to offend. Honestly sometimes I'm just like "here I have this whole extra set up, take it" and then I'm out $30 of supplies because I want them to take care of their fish >_< It's the easy way out but for certain people I will do it.

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Its horribly uncomfortable anyway. I rubbed my eye then thoroughly rubbed down things she uses by her face everyday. Lets see her insult me again when shes got it. Stupid eye patch. I got crap about being a pirate because of it
Just throwing this out there... you cannot control other people. Only your own actions.

Also I dress up like a pirate whenever I have an excuse to lol which is surprisingly often. Florida likes pirates. Maybe next time there is an eyepatch involved, just wink and say "aargh!" I bet everyone will enjoy it.
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So weird. The 3 PetsMarts near me have only female Rosy Barbs. I want the males. Stores almost always carry only the males because they're brightly colored. The females are just blah.
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wrong thread >_> also my gluten free pizza tasted like burnt spices
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