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Old 05-06-2012, 01:21 AM   #11 
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The only reason I asked was so I could see if anyone could let me know the longest amount of time I can keep the male in there for him to help out the fry. I feel like they are starting in rough conditions with the gravel being in there and the fact I haven't done a water change in the breeding tank since I started spawning. So I am still curious on the longest amount of time I have before the male starts to chomp down on the fry.

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Old 05-06-2012, 01:23 AM   #12 
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If the OP wishes to learn more they can PM me. I'm not trying to be rude here. The OP is near me and I can point them in the direction of great sources of info across our state (and there are MANY).

Anyway, to the OP, the male should be removed within a week. They can be similar to cichlids and provide extra parental care. However, as a newbie the odds are stacked against you. Remove him once they become free swimming (in a day or two depending on temperature). The gravel isn't too big of a deal at this point as long as the water itself is kept clean. Like I said, an airline tubing with an airstone. Gently drip water back in.

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Old 05-06-2012, 02:09 AM   #13 
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I also second the 50% change at two weeks with an air stone. You could even get a system going where you have one airline supplying fresh water to the tank at the same time you are siphoning the dirty water out, so the water level doesn't shift and freak out the fry. When your breeders are in there, always eyeball the bottom of the tank for adult poo and suck it out with a baster, else it will build up into bacteria and ammonia when the fry hatch. :)

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Old 05-06-2012, 04:45 AM   #14 
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This is getting out of hand!To the OP I have done 50% water changes at the second week, throughout the first two weeks I slowly add water in until the tank is full.To the OP good luck with your spawn, one thing I forgot to mention is I use a pipette to suck out any uneaten food in the first two weeks while adding the water!Good Luck!

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Old 05-06-2012, 09:28 AM   #15 
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Seniord first question is always the same in text book or on the net(for beginner)
Free swimming which is 3 days
With the water change
Most book or net say 2 weeks
When u do a water change make sure it the same temp.


Everywhere u read is bare bottom(expect Ofl which she use a soil base)
Gravel is just to much of a hassle to work it
Cleaning is hard
1)can crush a fry while cleaning the bottom
2)harder to get all the waste and uneatten food
3)going to feed twice as much cause if the live food hiding in the gravel

Hey
Seniord answer these question
What is temp in your tank
Is got tank cover
Do you have any live plants inside of the tank
Size of the tank
How long u set up your breeding tank before putting the fish in
How u Condition your breeding pair
Fry food
Do you have a heater inside of the tank

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Old 05-06-2012, 10:12 AM   #16 
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Old 05-06-2012, 10:47 AM   #17 
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I woke up this morning to see a lot of my fry died off getting trapped under the gravel. I was worried and took the male out. The fry have been swimming up and down for a day or two now. A few are going side to side. Was it a bad idea for me to take the male from the fry? I know that if you leave the male with the fry for too long he starts eating them so that why I freaked out and took him out.
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Old 05-06-2012, 11:05 AM   #18 
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It's best to go with a bare bottomed tank so stuff like that doesn't happen.
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Old 05-06-2012, 11:21 AM   #19 
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Sniff sniff
Seniord didn't answer my question
Will it kind of hard to help if he/she not going to put in the input
Not moving dark fry don't mean there dead
Puffy white with eye piping out is the only way I can tell
Frys that young will died and disappear with a few hours
So if u still see a bunch of them
Don't mean theyre dead
With gravel the dad can't really help the fry if there stuck in it
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Old 05-06-2012, 11:57 AM   #20 
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Seniord first question is always the same in text book or on the net(for beginner)
Free swimming which is 3 days
With the water change
Most book or net say 2 weeks
When u do a water change make sure it the same temp.


Everywhere u read is bare bottom(expect Ofl which she use a soil base)
Gravel is just to much of a hassle to work it
Cleaning is hard
1)can crush a fry while cleaning the bottom
2)harder to get all the waste and uneatten food
3)going to feed twice as much cause if the live food hiding in the gravel

Hey
Seniord answer these question
What is temp in your tank: 82-85
Is got tank cover: Yes
Do you have any live plants inside of the tank: No I do not. I know I should and I did but someone decided to leave them in a plastic bag after they "cleaned" my tanks.
Size of the tank: 10g
How long u set up your breeding tank before putting the fish in: I had it set up for 5-7 days before I put any of the fish in there.
How u Condition your breeding pair: Well I have this betta safe stuff that makes the water safe and "conditions" if that's what you mean. I ALWAYS keep my community tank at 82-85 just because they look so much happier. And I also used dried blood worms for maybe about a week three maybe four times a day. Then I tried a few pairs and finally got my Double Tail female and my Dragon Scale Male.
Fry food: Well I haven't been able to buy any baby brine shrimp which I read to be what you should feed them. So I watched a video on how to make some kind of paste with the normal food you use. So I crushed up some of the blood worms and some flakes mixed with some water. The Male put some blood worms in the center of the nest so I dripped some of the concoction in the same spot.(I know he put it there because I fed him on the opposite side of the tank.)
Do you have a heater inside of the tank: Yes


Sorry I forgot to answer you. And I'm a dude. xD
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